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BTDandFeelingThis · Dec 6, 2018

Dog with a Blog said:

@bachna84 , I need you to choose

Davjs · Dec 6, 2018

Kingjohn_654 said:

Careful, there's No Exit from that type of thinking

Dog with a Blog · Dec 6, 2018

bachna84 said:

am i choosing just that movie or the entire franchise (and future movies in said franchise?)

Hmm.

Frozen 2 hasn’t come out yet, which makes this difficult. Let’s make it a little harder I guess.

Frozen vs. Mamma Mia vs. Mamma Mia 2.

Only one survives. The rest you can never watch again

bachna84 · Dec 6, 2018

bachna84 said:

As some of you are aware, I am a fan of 2008's masterpiece Mamma Mia! (hereby referred to as Mamma Mia without the exclamation point, because that's just confusing).

Over the past couple of months, I have had the pleasure of viewing this fine film somewhere in the neighborhood of 50 times as my 3 year old daughter has taken a liking to the movie. After repeated viewings, there are several things that irk me about the film. I'll start with the one that keeps me up at night.

1) There is a serious timeline issue involving the most critical plot point of the Mamma Mia universe. I, like most other fans of the Mamma Mia series (which now includes this year's hit sequel Mamma Mia! Here We Go Again - hereby referred to without the exclamation point, because that's just confusing) hold the first movie as canon. Without going into too much detail, the movie centers around Sophie's (played by the terrific Amanda Seyfried) quest to find her father prior to her wedding ceremony. She finds her mother Donna's (played by the amazing Meryl Streep) journal which details some of Donna's "escapades" roughly 10 months prior to the birth of Sophie. In a scene with two of her best friends, Sophie details the accounts of said journal. Per the journal, on July 17th (year unknown) it is inferred that Donna had carnal relations with Sam Carmichael (portrayed by Pierce Brosnan). A couple of weeks later, on August 4th to be exact, Donna and Bill Anderson (portrayed by Stellan Skarsgard) became one in the most intimate of ways. Finally, one week later on August 11th, Donna once more gave into her fleshly desires - this time with Harry Bright (portrayed by the ever delightful Colin Firth).

Why is this a problem, you ask? I'll tell you why. In Mamma Mia Here We Go Again, we see through flashback sequences that Donna first encounters Harry Bright (aka Harry Headbanger) in Paris, where they share a bed. Donna leaves and encounters Bill Anderson, but they do NOT sleep together at this point. While in Greece, she meets a young Sam Carmichael and the two have quite a romance. Unfortunately for Donna, Sam is engaged and upon learning that, Donna tells Sam that she never wants to see him again and that's the end of that. She then has another encounter with Bill Anderson and this time they seal the deal.

So to sum things up, Mamma Mia gives the order of Donna's lovers as Sam - Bill - Harry and Mamma Mia Here We Go Again gives the order as Harry - Sam - Bill. The stories don't sync up and I'm just about sick over it.

2) How does Sophie find the present day addresses of Sam, Bill, and Harry??? At the beginning of Mamma Mia, Sophie mails out invitations to her three potential fathers. She read their names out of her mother's journal, but how did she track down the addresses??? None of them have particularly difficult surnames. I have a very difficult time believing that she could've tracked them down. I'm just not buying it.

3) Prior to the scene in Mamma Mia where Donna sings the song Mamma Mia, she spots her three former lovers and she has a quick flashback to what they looked like 20 years prior. It bothers me that the actors that were cast to play the young Sam, Bill, and Harry in Mamma Mia Here We Go Again look nothing like how they were portrayed during the brief flashback sequence in Mamma Mia.

4) Accents (or lack thereof) - I never gave this much thought until @iCarly Rae Jepsen mentioned it, but why don't Donna and Sophie have Greek accents???

5) And finally, the age of the actors/actresses. Upon graduating college, Donna went on her travels and soon became pregnant. I assume that she gave birth to Sophie somewhere in the age range of 23-25 depending on how long her college experience last. During Mamma Mia Here We Go Again, it is said that Sophie is currently 25 and the present day events of Mamma Mia Here We Go Again occur 5 years later than the events of Mamma Mia. So Sophie would have been 20 during the events of Mamma Mia, putting Donna in the age range of 43-45. At the time of Mamma Mia's release, Meryl Streep was 59 years old. While Meryl Streep is a national treasure, I think that perhaps an actress approximately 15 years younger than Meryl Streep should have been cast for the part. I haven't given a lot of thought as to who that would be, but I'll save that endeavor for a rainy day.

Lastly, in Mamma Mia Here We Go Again, Cher is introduced as Sophie's grandmother (and Donna's mother). In real life, Cher is currently 72 and Meryl Streep is currently 69 (nice). I find it highly unlikely that Sophie's grandmother birthed her mother at the tender age of 3. But there's really no way to know for sure.

this current discussion reminded me of this - i'm on the universal studios contact page now and i'm going to send this (with a few minor modifications) to them

bachna84 · Dec 6, 2018

Dog with a Blog said:

Hmm.

Frozen 2 hasn’t come out yet, which makes this difficult. Let’s make it a little harder I guess.

Frozen vs. Mamma Mia vs. Mamma Mia 2.

Only one survives. The rest you can never watch again

I’ll go with the original Mamma Mia but I’ll never forgive you for making me choose

bachna84 · Dec 6, 2018

I’m removing the reference to @iCarly Rae Jepsen

No offense, but I doubt Universal Studios knows who you are

Joe4th · Dec 6, 2018

Dog with a Blog said:

I think maybe I need to revisit God’s Favorite Customer. I dug a few tracks, and Just Dumb Enough to Try is one of my favorite songs in his discography/the year, but that album didn’t stick with me at all.

It's top 5 for me, definitely revisit it. Some really beautiful stuff on there. An incredibly honest introspective album

BTDandFeelingThis · Dec 6, 2018

bachna84 said:

I’m removing the reference to @iCarly Rae Jepsen

No offense, but I doubt Universal Studios knows who you are

They might think it’s the actual Jepsen you’re referring to

bachna84 · Dec 6, 2018

iCarly Rae Jepsen · Dec 6, 2018

bachna84 said:

I’m removing the reference to @iCarly Rae Jepsen

No offense, but I doubt Universal Studios knows who you are

They know me because of my minions fan fic

Crisp X · Dec 6, 2018

Right now, I don't have any other opportunities to go out or really talk to people IRL besides every other weekend. Listening to music and writing my own helps distract myself, but mostly, I juggle between work and then feeling exhausted at home. I feel grateful for interacting with all of you, even if I struggle to catch up on most threads, and am bad at small talk so I don't post a lot unless it's humorous. No idea about time zone differences, but have a good day/night everyone, and thanks for being there.

Elder Lightning · Dec 6, 2018

iCarly Rae Jepsen said:

They know me because of my minions fan fic

Yours is the Tumblr I’m saddest to see go.

Crisp X · Dec 6, 2018

I haaaaaate insomnia

littlejohn · Dec 6, 2018

iCarly Rae Jepsen said:

@littlejohn liking every post finally reaches its inevitable conclusion of confusing me

there's some I didn't like in the past few pages.

also KJ's posts.

bachna84 said:

I’m removing the reference to @iCarly Rae Jepsen

No offense, but I doubt Universal Studios knows who you are

have @KidLightning send it from his email, they think he's a big time director or something .

Elder Lightning · Dec 6, 2018

littlejohn said:

have @KidLightning send it from his email, they think he's a big time director or something .

I sometimes get emails intended for this guy: Chris Chesser - IMDb

But, in reality, I am this guy: Chris Chesser - IMDb

littlejohn · Dec 6, 2018

KidLightning said:

I sometimes get emails intended for this guy: Chris Chesser - IMDb

But, in reality, I am this guy: Chris Chesser - IMDb

you're THE strip club patron?!?!?!

huge fan.

Elder Lightning · Dec 6, 2018

littlejohn said:

you're THE strip club paton?!?!?!

huge fan.

That's me! Also did some behind the scenes work on set and assisted with getting the music licensed for the movie.

iCarly Rae Jepsen · Dec 6, 2018

KidLightning said:

I sometimes get emails intended for this guy: Chris Chesser - IMDb

But, in reality, I am this guy: Chris Chesser - IMDb

What about Chuck E Cheese?

DesolateEarth · Dec 6, 2018

I'm a huge fan of everything I have heard from the new ERRA album.

Elder Lightning · Dec 6, 2018

iCarly Rae Jepsen said:

What about Chuck E Cheese?

The children's pizza restaurant mogul?

iCarly Rae Jepsen · Dec 6, 2018

KidLightning said:

The children's pizza restaurant mogul?

I don't think there are any others

Elder Lightning · Dec 6, 2018

iCarly Rae Jepsen said:

I don't think there are any others

At my company there are no fewer than 3 user accounts under the name "Chuck E Cheese" so you might be surprised.

littlejohn · Dec 6, 2018

KidLightning said:

At my company there are no fewer than 3 user accounts under the name "Chuck E Cheese" so you might be surprised.

leave my user accounts out of this

iCarly Rae Jepsen · Dec 6, 2018

KidLightning said:

At my company there are no fewer than 3 user accounts under the name "Chuck E Cheese" so you might be surprised.

And what about Chester Cheetah?

Elder Lightning · Dec 6, 2018

iCarly Rae Jepsen said:

And what about Chester Cheetah?

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