Saves The Day - 9 (October 26, 2018) Album • Page 21

Nostalgia tends to win over objectivity.

 

That’s the only song I skip on TBC

also the accident he went through in 2000 and his life style changes looks to be the reason why he stopped writing lyrics like that

Namaste What You Are: Saves The Day’s Chris Conley on the Benefits of Meditation

 

Because it's not true? I'm not even saying RTJM is good lyrically, I said it has one good line. I'm saying even that song's lyrics, at their worst, aren't as bad as the worst on this album.

I know people here are a fan of Chris' tweets. I'm not. I don't want an album of that cheesy, cringey stuff. "IT'S SUCH A BEAUTIFUL WORLD, LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL, SOMETIMES ITS ALL TOO MUCH BUT THANK GOD WERE NOT ALONE" just yelling at me is a lot to handle.

 

It's misogynistic garbage. Stop this.

 

That's very interesting. I can only imagine what an incident like that would do to your mental state.

Thanks for the read!

 

I’d rather have that positive cheesiness screamed at me than stuff about spooning out eye balls

 

I take it you hate all of Sound The Alarm then with all the self mutilation and such?

 

What a weird hill to decide to die on.

 

There’s a big difference - for me at least - between misogynistic lyricism because a woman doesn’t reciprocate your feelings and describing and battling a mental illness or disease

 

What a terrible and overused turn of phrase.

And that was an inquiry of general curiosity, not a statement of "how dare you not like that style!"

 

Wouldn’t you know it, another weird hill to die on.

 

See, to me, that makes complete sense and something I understand.

 

Besides that AP Oral History from 2006, are there any more articles/interviews/documentation of why David and Eben left? Most of the other departures make sense for the members involved, but those two seem to be most impactful departures of the early members.

Just like Chris changed the way I play guitar, Eben had a huge impact on my bass playing. I immediately wanted to play more rythmic and melodic basslines like Freakish and What Went Wrong after I was introduced to Saves the Day back in 2003.

 

Lyrics are generally the last thing I pay attention to in a song so I'm no judge on what's good or bad when it comes to lyrics. But I think the best lyrics of all time are the ones to "Albuquerque" by Weird Al.

 

If I'm being completely honest (and with much embarrassment) I never really paid enough attention to the context or details of the lyrics of RTJM to realize its message. I just liked that line I shared and didn't think much of the rest of it. I've listened to that song for years without actually knowing what it was about and I'm sorry that I defended it in that way. It was a bad song to rally behind to make my point about my preference for his older writing style and not content.

I apologize for not paying enough attention to what people we're really saying about the song and I understand why people got rightfully upset thinking I was supporting that kind of mentality of violence against women and a misogynistic mindset.

 

Yeaaaahhhhhhhh whattya want?

 

this is very important

 

e-fist bump for you

 

They def. ain't breaking up anytime soon:

"Since we finished 9 I’ve probably had 50 or 60 new ideas but the problem is that I also have about 10,000 from before that I haven’t had a chance to get to. I do know what the first two songs on the next Saves The Day album are going to be though, and I’m really excited about that."

Chris of Suburbia: Saves the Day's Chris Conley Traces Emo Band's Storied Past on New Rock Opera LP

 

Could you elaborate Jason? I'm not disagreeing with you at all, more trying to understand where the line should be drawn in lyrics with what is acceptable and what is unacceptable.

 

would love to get a steady stream of music from the band!

 

it’s a song about desiring someone who doesn’t want you back and it describes physically dismembering them to hold onto them against their will. not great

 

For sure I get that, I just always chalked it up as ignorant teenage angst. I guess I should not just pass it off as just that.

 

This was an amazing read, thanks for sharing!

 

See, I never really knew that because I thought a lot about it in the same vein of the context of Through Being Cool where he is going to stick needles in Nick's eyes or something for being a douche. I really didn't take a closer look to see what it was saying big picture. Thank you and @Drew Beringer for elaborating on all of this.