Cursive - Vitriola (October 5, 2018) Album • Page 3

Interested to hear your thoughts! It's Gonna Hurt is a perfect song.

 

Gonna listen in a little while when I'm home from school, I'm really excited. What are your overall impressions?

 

It's fantastic. Brilliant summation of where the band's heads are at in 2018, musically speaking - there are enough nods to their past to make it feel somewhat familiar, but if it's taking the lead from anything previous it's NOT Ugly Organ but instead the Burst and Bloom EP. Tim's lyrics are rooted in apocalyptic themes and pessimism but there's a hard-won sense of hope and dogged perseverance in there too, it just takes a while to reveal itself. Feels like the record they needed to make, with a lot of coincidental payoffs making that possible.

 

How heavy is it? Any screaming?

 

Tim Kasher On Cursive's New 'Vitriola' And His Love-Hate Relationship With 'The Ugly Organ'

another new song and interview!

 

This record is great

 

You shaking in a taco bell parking lot over it?

 

Really like that second song over the first one. interview with tim was awesome too

 

Tim mentions that they recorded 21 songs, not just wrote them. I wonder if there's a better chance of some of the others seeing the light because of them being on their own label?

 

I need to listen again, don't think so. There MIGHT be some on It's Gonna Hurt?

The opening track (Free to Be or not to Be You and Me) has got this tight 3-part structure with a really powerful payoff that's as heavy as they've written in a while.

 

oof.

 

Tim $er

 

no god
no gold
no place to go

also I think I was indirectly referenced in that Stereogum piece??


I was indeed like.

 

Unfortunately not that good haha

 

New track is awesome.

 

hey he thinks you're nice!

 

well he put up with my stammering ass for 45+ minutes so the feeling is mutual!

 

i'd be a blubbering pool of stupid so props!

 

This album straight-up sounds like a sequel to The Ugly Organ lol not as immediately hooky, but this thing fucking rips. Their best since Happy Hollow (and I love all of their records)

 

I like them all besides the most recent one, so what you’re saying is I should pre order this?

 

I would, yeah. I didn't have low expectations or anything, but this honestly surprised me.

 

So I've always loved the Ugly Organ, but I actually got into Cursive a bit later than most people did, and my favorite album originally was Happy Hollow. And I think it still is!! But I've really come to appreciate the Ugly Organ in a different way than I did before. Its cynical commentary on the authenticity of certain scenes is really fun and somehow feels relevant to my own take on a lot of music at the moment, and the different motifs of control, theatricality, insincerity, roleplay in relationships... I dunno, love em. I never had the nostalgia goggles, but I will say the music somehow got better for me the more time I spent away from it.

It was from reading that recent interview that Tim did which inspired me to go back and listen; like he said in the interview, the ending tracks on the album are surprisingly hopeful! The album's a cynical chaotic thing, but there's such a lovely bright ending to it all.

The second half of Gentleman Caller is one of the most beautiful pieces of a song I've ever heard, and I think that track is actually the most representative of the album as a whole.

I will say that it's so weird the album comes after Domestica somehow? Because for me Domestica's subject matter feels like what someone would tackle on a later LP. Also, listening to this album back to back with LIFTED is really cool. They feel similar, and in more than just "Oh, they're cool friends in similar genres" type of way.

 

Revisited Tim's Rank Your Records feature and almost had a heart attack when I saw Happy Hollow at the bottom lol

 

Got this yesterday and got about 5 listens in. havent been super active here mostly due to work obligations/hurricane season but heres some random thoughts

-agree 100% with @Aaron Mook about it feeling like a sequel to TUO and being their best since HH. Ive enjoyed everything the bands done, personally i think the last 2 were super underrated generally speakin, but yeah this is a nice "return to form" if you want to call it that

-the cello makes a solid return and the addition of a full time keyboardist adds some nice textures.

-every song here has some sort of chaotic moment or feel to it, theres no real ballads or anything. also lots of apocalyptic imagery and an overall theme of political commentary

-dont care what anyone says Tims a damn fine vocalist