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What's funny about shit like this is that they are so easily offended and sensitive to idiotic things that they think people who support plastic straws being fazed out are actually personally hurt by them doing this.

 

Thank you. I’ve been going back and forth with someone who basically pulled out the ‘at least they’re asking the Kurds for these rights, because if they asked any other group in the region they’d get killed or gassed or raped!’ argument...just face palm inducing stuff.

How do you think of an independent Kurdistan? Is it something the US should be willing to push heavily militarily?

 

One bright spot - t

All. Of. Them. Look. Exactly. The. Same.

 

May I ask the political persuasion of the person who said this?

Also, it's what the US is already doing....at the expense of Assyrians. If you've read all the articles and tweets I've mentioned, the answer is 'no' to both. Especially with what's been happening and what is still happening. There's a difference between actual autonomous self-determination and this (racist but it goes without saying) ethnostate based on land theft and ethnic cleansing. Anyone who says they're against Zionism would very clearly be against this.

See here from that article:

"In collapsing states, as Syria and Iraq were during IS’ emergence and occupation, the homelands of vulnerable and minoritized groups have often proven to be the easiest spaces on which to rapidly establish new “facts on the ground”. Iraq was first; long plagued by a multitude of clashing interests, military dictatorships, violence, and oppression, the northern territories became dominated by Kurdish groups given their demographic superiority after repeated acts of ethnic cleansing and expulsion of the indigenous Assyrian populations.

This dominance precipitated the gradual erasure of Assyrians from their own lands, both symbolically and materially. Dozens of Assyrian villages and swathes of Assyrian land in Dohuk, on which Assyrians have not only a historical but legal claim, have been seized and occupied by Kurds. This process has only accelerated since the implementation of the no-fly zone and the establishment of the KRG, with land theft cases overwhelmingly being ruled in favor of Assyrians with no corollary action taken to challenge their occupation, which is often enforced through threats or actual violence."

 

continued, i'm almost at the end and:

"In April 2017, Wladimir van Wilgenberg posted a page of a textbook currently in use in the Jazira/Cizere Canton where Assyrians are predominantly clustered. Here, we can see that not only are children being taught about Kurds or Kurdish history in Syria, but about an idealised Greater Kurdistan (that includes even Mosul). The significance of this cannot be understated: if the Rojava Revolution was primarily about sophisticated leftist ideals, a map commonly circulated by ethnic-nationalists would not be published within its educational literature."

"Creating facts on the ground in the manner described in this article represents a zero-sum game for Assyrians. Wherever Kurdish nationalist forces are flourishing in these areas, Assyrians are leaving. This is not partnership: it is submission and displacement, and the US is continuing to funnel hundreds of millions of dollars into it. The US is protecting its interests in Syria, as it has often done in Iraq by propping up the peshmerga. What must be realised is that both of these endeavours are not only harming Assyrians materially, but conserving the very patronage systems Assyrians are desperately trying to resist."

 

It’s a ‘moderate’ as far as I can tell...hates Trump, typically votes for republicans but has voted dem, etc.

Another person I was discussing this with was at least a bit more reasonable, but tried to blame it on the region in general being in shambles after ISIS and everyone trying to get a slice of the pie picking up the pieces and the Kurds were just the most visible because they’re the biggest group there and etc...but I said well, okay, but you don’t see how a group like the Assyrians who have been anywhere from ignored to murdered and chased out of their homes for centuries would maybe still be angry at the Kurds for doing that shit, even if they are ‘better than ISIS’?

 

I am a big fan of plastic straws, mainly because i like to chew on the straw and stuff, but if they ban them..ok so now I don't have a plastic straw. it's just such a dumb thing to be so mad about.


I don't think I've ever seen a paper one.

 

The Philly Zoo has straws that are not plastic...I think they’re ‘paper’ but I don’t remember. They’re biodegradable at least.

 

"To thoroughly unpack the falsehoods, rhetorical sleights of hand, goalpost shifting, and general bad-faith arguments would require a monograph. One example will suffice: To prove that Hitler wasn’t a “right-winger” but truly belongs to the left, D’Souza notes that the dictator is often deemed right-wing because he’s perceived as homophobic. (Well, yes.) But in fact, that’s incorrect, because Hitler tolerated homosexuals in the brownshirts as long as they were good fighters; ergo, he wasn’t homophobic, and by extension he’s not right-wing. Beyond the ridiculousness of the claim, D’Souza either missed the logical conclusion of his own argument—that to be right-wing is to be homophobic—or hopes the audience doesn’t clock the trap he’s set for himself. That’s typical of D’Souza’s whirlwind barrage of assertions: One minute we’re learning that FDR thought of Mussolini as a kindred spirit, the next that the Nazi party program sounds like it was jointly written by Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders because it has a healthcare plank."

“Hitler was liberal” is just one insight offered by Dinesh D’Souza’s fraudulent Death Of A Nation

 

christ. she almost makes me ashamed to have gone to jmu. ugh.

 

Just next level fuckery.

*Turning up the music.*

 

I got to know a coworker today and found out she’s an anti-vaxer. Yikes.

 

But 4.1% growth and look at all the judges! /s

 

NYT notification: Charles Koch and Donald Trump are feuding.

Looks like we got ourselves an Alien v Predator situation.

 

thats what you get for being sociable at work

 

UFO sightings did not disappear, I won’t stand for this slander.

 

Ok Tom DeLonge.

 

Alright, Tom Delonge

 

We all know conspiracies are dumb.