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I wouldn't be surprised to find out that girl was actually someone else in a disguise or something.

 

It's fucking Sirio.

 

This is on the elevator at the building I'm working at. Right next to the "Door Open" button.

 

I don't think it's really how HODOR got his name that is important. That whole scenario was just used to show how powerful bran can be. We aren't supposed to be like oh shit that's why HODOR says HODOR. We're supposed to be like oh shit Bran can do that?! Sorry my phone makes HODOR all caps.

 

Just to get a clarification, Bran can't change the past to alter current events am I right?

Like he can go back and change things, but those changes have already taken effect in present time?!

 

That is my understanding. He could be the cause of present events but he can't alter the future.

 

So uh, what the fuck is going on here and why is this just at the front of a hotel?

 

I saw this at a hotel the other week. I'm pretty sure he's a spokesman/actor in Expedia/Travelocity/similar company website commercials.

 

Well that's not as good of an explanation as "they did it just cause" but thanks haha

 

How does that make any sense? He was born in the future (in comparison to the past in which he's visiting), so how could he have not changed the future by causing present events?

 

Sorry I meant he can't alter the past lol. Like I don't think he can go back and save his dad.

 

He doesn't change the timeline from what it already is, but he still shapes it. What happened, whether Bran caused it or not, is ALWAYS what happened.

Take Hodor, for example. Bran meddled in the past and caused Hodor to have that seizure. Doing so did not change the present timeline from what it already was. Bran had always been the cause of Hodor's mental state before Bran was even born. He didn't CHANGE the past; he just had a hand in shaping it.

 

Reminded me of Lost, when the Island was skipping

 

I didn't realize people hadn't seen the Wyndham Rewards Wizard commercials yet haha.

I remember seeign those for the first time a year or two ago and going HOLY SHIT IT's TORMUND...why is he selling me hotel rooms?

 

That's paradoxical. There had to be a timeline where Bran didn't change Hodor, at least until the time when he goes back, since Bran was born after him.

 

Depends on what you think happens with time travel.

 

I don't know where you're getting that there "had" to be another time where that happened. That's not true with what we currently know.

Given what we know, Hodor's name was Hodor before Bran was born, right? Yet, we now know that his name came directly from Bran's time travel and exposing him to the phrase "hold the door" at that moment. This means that Bran didn't "change" Hodor's timeline, he just influenced it. It was always that way.

 

That's why its a paradox otherwise. Its a classic causal loop paradox where where a future event is a cause of a past event, which in turn contributes to the future event. If the origin can't be determined, as you say, its a temporal paradox.Temporal paradox - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Saying it was always that way does nothing to explain the contradiction.

 

You are correct, it doesn't make sense (the frustrating nature of time travel). But he is still not changing anything in the past necessarily. It's almost like everything before his physical body was born was predetermined or put in place to help his present self.

This seems to be why the Three-Eyed Raven thought he still had things he needed to see, which is why he told Bran he wasn't ready last weekend. He didn't get to show him everything in the past before he died. From this point on (after his physical body was created), he has the free will to change things. I don't know if that makes any more sense, but oh well.

 

only if you view time as linear

 

But, as well all know, time is a flat circle.

 

lol

 

Hahhhaha