Kanye West - ye & Kids See Ghosts (June 1 & 8 2018) Album • Page 100

Kanye West: 'Racism Is a Dated Concept'

He said that pretty dumb thing a few years ago

""That's racism. It's not an actual thing that even means anything."

 

“Had a bad opinion”

Sigh. Jesus. I’m just about done with the internet today.

 

... okay, but skating right past the part where "When you hear about slavery for 400 years ... For 400 years? That sounds like a choice" is interpreted to be about mental slavery and not the American institution of slavery spurred by the trans-Atlantic slave trade... do you actually think this is all over ONE interview?

If I had no outside knowledge of Kanye or his escalating behavior over the past decade, your post makes sense. But it isn't really rooted in fact, and I guess I'm just tired of people isolating a solitary action from a man who has hurt a lot of people, putting the softest lens on it and calling it a day in his favor. It's really depressing and really tiring.

 

https://forum.chorus.fm/posts/2091979

I can’t believe people keep doing this.

 

God damn people if you're gonna talk about his music feel free but don't get mad when people find that disappointing given his behavior lately. And don't try defending kanyes behavior just because you wanna talk music. Like damn. If you wanna talk music without people reminding you about what kanyes done lately go to kanyetothe or some shit lol

 

Sad to say but I've finally reached the point where I don't even wanna listen to his older records much anymore. Only when I'm feeling nostalgic, not for any other reason.

 

I haven’t really tried yet, probably close to my longest dry spell of Kanye since I got into him I guess. Just haven’t felt like it

 

Yeah it's not that I'm actively avoiding it it's just that I don't want to at all, if that makes sense. I'm sure some day I'll probably wanna listen to those old records again but right now eh there's other stuff I'm spending my time on

 

We stan Vince Staples around here now

 

Agreed about the dry spell. Which is weird, 'cause once every week or two I would bump The College Dropout. Oh well. There are other records.

 

I've listened to Yeezus a couple times in the past few weeks. I still love it but it's definitely.... different.

 

All the questionable comments Kanye has made lately plus all the great music by other artists that have recently dropped, and it's been pretty easy for me to avoid his music.

 

I'm not skating over it at all, I'm stating that he completely missed the mark on the point he intended to make, by using actual slavery in his example. Had he excluded physical slavery in attempting to make his point about mental slavery, there wouldn't be as much outrage.

 

Well, I mean, then hed be saying something different and even that is wrong

 

Actually, it's not, but ok.

 

To be clear, I was the one skating past you reinterpreting the words that left his mouth as though your interpretation was fact, despite context clues supporting the more popular interpretation in order to ask you a question. It's all well and good to posit that he meant something other than what he said - but what we KNOW is what he SAID. And by the way, interpreting that he meant the words that left his mouth how he said them isn't out of line given everything else that's been going on with him. There's giving people the benefit of the doubt and then there's applying rosy lenses to our faves because we don't want to see how far down the rabbit hole they've gone.

And I return to my question: do you ACTUALLY think this is all over one interview?

 

"Mental slavery" seems like one of those terms that is purposefully ambiguous so that it can mean everything and nothing all at the same time. Is someone a slave mentally if they are anxious when they walk into a room because of the color of their skin and how people will treat them? Do they get to choose to fall asleep on a chair and not have the cops called on them?

 

I mean he spent days prior to that TMZ clip promoting some pretty shitty people with really dangerous ideologies.

dude literally tweeted that he likes the way Candace Owens thinks, and Candace Owens thinks that police brutality against POC isn't about racism and that BLM are playing victims. Like, even if he explicitly meant mental slavery, do you not take any of this other context into consideration or?

 

He literally tweeted moments after the interview hit the internet to clarify that he meant "mental slavery". Yes, I'll admit I interpreted his words as mental slavery before it was clarified (though his example was atrocious), but it became fact that he indeed meant mental slavery.

Recent mainstream outrage is due to his interview, his picture with two white men while wearing the MAGA hat, him expressing that he likes the way Candace Owens thinks, amongst a few other examples I'm probably forgetting, and how all that affects the African American community. So, no, not just ONE interview.

 

Why are you hellbent on giving him the benefit of the doubt?

 

I'm not giving him the benefit of the doubt. He stated what he meant. His example was shit, and he clarified what he meant. It still doesn't take away from the fact that his example was shit.

 

His "clarification" also made no sense and was logically incongruent with what he originally stated.

 

I never stated that it was "logically congruent," I simply wrote what he meant, and said he gave a terrible example to attempt to make his point.

 

Ok, and Kendrick Lamar said, "until we respect ourselves, how do you expect them (referring to police) to respect us either?" Are you going to condemn Kendrick now for saying that?

 

LMAO so you're still going to listen to the music? This thread is full of hypocrites.