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Like, darker and more riff based/faster/poppy stuff like TOYPAJ sounds great to me. The biggest hurdle isn't melodies (Mark's so good at this) or Feldmann's production ... it'll be the lyrical content and if they decide to take it up a notch and write about stuff that's deeper than what they did last time. Make it matter and have some weight. When Mark and Matt do that, it's great. When they don't, it suffers.

Do that, think about the record as a cohesive whole, and mix up the structure and sequence of the songs so it's not as similar/predictable ... would be good imo.

 

If Feldmann tried to apply his strengths towards a more experimental record, I'm afraid it would come out overstuffed and weird like the worst of the Used records or D.R.U.G.S. tbh

It definitely wouldn't sniff Jerry Finn's work lol

 

Meh, that's on those bands more than him IMO.

Last Goldfinger album and Vices and Virtues is more what I'd wanna see from an "experimental" side.

I also think people overstate the untitled album's "experimentation" side to begin with.

 

His production quality is way too generic, at least for me it is. Every single guitar sounds like plastic because kills the tone of the instrument for whatever reason. Even the 311 tracks he produced are similar in that sense. Not trying to take away from a song being good. I just get so annoyed by it haha.

But yes, I definitely agree with more mature lyrics. Skiba should just run with the lyrics and Mark take on the melodies lol.

 

Vices And Virtues is great, he worked perfect with Panic. There's a lot of odd choices on The Used's first album but everything worked perfectly and I think it sort of created too much of a template for Feldmann but it never worked as well ever again.

The experimenting was definitely more with recording methods and everything Finn brought more than musically but still something like I Miss You was so weird at first. That's one of those records I wish I could hear for the first time again lol.

 

I LOVE Vices and Virtues. Panics best album, imo.

 

To be fair, Butch Walker did a ton on Vices, maybe even more than Feldmann.

 

This is me, too. No need to reinvent themselves, but there are a handful of the reoccurring themes with California that they could do without (na nas, same chord progressions, no riffs aside from that same one they kept recycling, teenage lyrics)... Like you said, you can write some good, simple pop punk without being quite so formulaic and forcing lyrics about being "suburban youth".

So...no expectations for me, really. I just don't want them to feel like they're stuck in a box because "this is what blink-182 is supposed to sound like".

 

From what I've heard from people that have recorded with Butch ... I don't think that's true. He usually works from a building a song and song-writing approach more than anything else. I remember hearing some of the "mixes" he sent to a band once and was shocked how raw they sounded. They were like, "oh, yeah he basically just gets the parts together for you in what a song should look like and then someone else will do everything else."

 

They are both all over this haha.

 

If the next album is anything like self titled than hell yeah !

 

The experimentation on Untitled comes from production really. I think Jerry Finn and his engineers played a heavy hand in finding tones and sounds and layering it all into a cohesive mix. I think on Asthenia the tone came from a dying tube amp, iirc. Those are things that I just don’t see them exploring on their own.

That’s what I want more of, but it’s not really Feldy’s game, so I’m not expecting it.

 

If the band wanted to do that, they would. Just seems like a waste of time to be honest.

 

You mean you don't want them making loop noises from a small toolbox that ascends into a song like The Adventure?!

 

Yeah I just don’t care about that from blink-182 in 2018. Heh. I can get my esoteric weird rock recording many places.

 

This means more shitty joke songs, doesn’t it?

 

Sure, for people that are into straight up pop/rock songs or care more about song structures or whatever, I’m sure it is, and I think blink is good at making those songs. I know I enjoyed (and still enjoy) digging into those different sounds though. However, Untitled seems to be the anomaly in their discography, so I don’t think we’ll get a record like that from blink again.

I’ll just listen to Untitled again when I want to hear that, or of course the hundreds of other bands doing that that aren’t maybe in this genre. But I’ll echo your statement about this next album, if it carries some more weight lyrically and Mark & Matt do what they do best, I’ll be all for it.

 

Yeah I’m kind of over bashing Feldmann or wanting blink to put out a more ‘experimental’ or ‘darker’ album. I just want new music from Mark, Matt and Travis and to know they are fully committed and all in on trying to make the best album possible.

 

I'll never really bash Feldmann much because San Diego is my favorite post-Untitled song and he made Mark make it lol. But I also love the shit out of Long Lost Feeling, Last Train Home, Cynical, Bored To Death, Left Alone. I haven't listened to OG Cali in a long time but the best of the two discs, I fully love.

I do think that the next record will at least be a little more cohesive.

 

I really want there to be solo songs. It was really weird how on both California and the deluxe version every single song had both singers, and followed the same Mark-Matt-Mark formula too

 

Pretty much all of them have that formula, yeah. Good Old Days is the odd man out, Matt only has backing vocals on that song

 

I absolutely love Wildfire still, Matt sounds beautiful on the verses . It's becoming that time of year where I'll spin the deluxe.

 

Yeah count me in on them having solo songs , changing up the song structure and also better guitar riffs would be nice. It’s a shame that the coolest sounding guitar parts are wasted on the joke songs.

 

Hopefully Johnny boy will let the songs breath this time around.

 

I think they were like, "hey everyone loved the switching vocals on Feeling This....so lets do it EVERY SONG."