Taylor Swift - Reputation (November 10, 2017) Album • Page 128

My understanding is they raised prices so scalpers didn't buy a bunch cheap and resell them, right? I don't want scalpers to buy them all up but i also don't wanna pay more either lol. Unless i am dumb and just don't get the model lol. Is the argument that I'd save money in the long run by not having to get super pricey stubhub tickets?

 

The tickets I bought during her little verified presale thing went up $200 in price for the public on sale. Tried to buy the one next to me later for a friend and went nope!

 

Prices have dropped back down, at least for Seattle. I'm a little mad because there are much better seats available for only a little more than I paid. I had my tickets listed on the Ticketmaster resale so I could buy new ones, but they ended all the resale listings a few days ago.

 

This new model absolutely just shifts the profit to the original seller (Ticketmaster and the artist). This does not help the consumer in the end (actually Taylor's is an exception because the presale was actually cheaper). But take Justin Timberlake - theyre doing the same price gouging model, but there was never a cheaper option. And now Ticketmaster has platinum tickets which means they get to adjust the price of the best tickets based on demand (aka start them out ridiculously expensive).

 

The tickets I bought for Denver (lower bowl near one of the B-stages) were $130 during the verified presale. They jumped way up to $300 when the general onsale hit. Now the ones left in that section are down to $175. I'm a little bummed that there's floor seats going for $175 now too but as long as they don't drop below the $130 I paid I'll be fine.

On 1989 tour we were literally so far in the corner behind the stage, we were actually behind the screen and couldn't see most of the stage. Bought them from a scalper for over $220 a piece so the Reputation tour is a steal.

 

I mean, that was really their intention from the start - shifting the profit to the correct people. The difference here is JT was going to sell out those arenas. That's why there was such a short turnaround between the time it was announced and the tour started. T-Swift was going to have a harder time selling out all stadiums, and the onsale to tour start gap was much longer. Platinum tickets don't really seem to mean much of anything, since the price of every ticket has adjusted more or less based on demand.

But I'll use what I said in my last comment about the 1989 tour as a point. I paid almost $220 from a reseller to get those shitty tickets. In the end, we were going to go to that concert no matter what we had to pay. (I mean, realistically I wouldn't have paid much more than that and I certainly wasn't happy about it). So I'm part of the problem when it comes to "Fair market value" of tickets. But I'm much happier with this model since I paid less and got better seats.

 

Yea I mean in get it, but as someone who normally tries to get tickets as soon as they go on sale, I like to at least have a chance at reasonably priced tickets and I have to pay more second hand later cus I can't get them, then I will. But it's a consistent trend across the board that Ticketmaster has been trying everything they can to price gouge. It makes me furious, for example, that you can put up resale tickets through their own site during the presale before the general on sale even starts. They aren't trying to stop scalping or do this for the consumer is all I'm saying, but they're trying to pretend they are. I mean in the end it is what it is. And it worked out that way for taylor swift but it's going to be rare you pay less than $200 for nosebleeds anywhere pretty soon.

 

Even if tickets weren't a million dollars on stubhub it freaks me out that I'll get scammed and turned away at the doors. I risked it for radiohead because it's radiohead so I do see the model working in that sense. But if I can't get tickets I usually just don't go. I'm not about to drive 5 hours to get turned away at the doors omg I'd die. And tbh I can think of few artists who are even worth resell prices (tho of course that's subjective and obv there's a market for it)

 

I've only ever bought off Stubhub, never any other resellers, and have only come remotely close to having a problem once. And honestly then, I was a little drunk and made it inside without ever figuring out what went wrong. Even the sketchier times when I got a screenshot of mobile tickets, or an American Express gift card for credit card entry, I've had great success (almost exactly) every time. But since I know the majority of tickets probably came directly from Ticketmaster anyway, I've never really even second guessed it.

 

Jimmy Eat World is actually the only show I've done Stubhub, usually if something sells out or isn't in my price range I just don't go

 

Stubhub is totally safe, they guarantee it. Craigslist or something similar is where you get fucked, there's no buyer protection

 

I’ve actually lucked out on stubhub a few times before. Just waited until like 30 minutes before a show started and got tickets for far below face value

 

Technically the guarantee is if your tickets don't work, they will attempt to get you a different set of tickets but at the very least you are guaranteed to get your money back if they can't get you ones that work. So there is a small risk that you may not be able to get in, which is a valid risk if you're traveling for a show, however my experience has been 99.99% successful.

 

This pricing model is still ridiculous to me. I can get a 3rd row ticket right behind a pit for $270, a seat about 30 rows back for $330, seats nowhere near any of the three stages mid floor for $350, or the very last row on the field for $250. There's just no logical reasoning behind it, and better seats keep getting released at lower pricing, and I know if I got a seat, and a better, cheaper one popped up a week later, I'd be livid.

I like the way they did the presale rollout and would love to see a model like that in the future (but a bit adjusted so you don't have to buy 40 copies of the same album to get an awesome seat [like if you post about the album, preorder it once, etc]) because it really did help a bunch of my friends who are die-hard fans get great seats, but this whole price-changing thing is crazy. It's cool that lots of tickets are still available and it really did deter scalpers, but it makes it inconvenient for fans, especially those who didn't do the presale (as I didn't, because I was unsure if I would like reputation after LWYMMD came out, and opted out because I knew the set would be very, very Rep heavy and just didn't want to spend the money for a good seat if that was the case.)

Also, the amount of platinum tickets for the dates near me is outrageous. It's clear that like, once a week, they're just changing platinum tickets to regular ones and selling them off that way.

Unsure if there's some bigger picture i'm missing (besides less tickets on the secondary market), but it just seems like a way for TM to get more money in the process rather than protect fans.

 

Yeah you're right, I think because of that guarantee there are very few fakes though

 

my dad got fake tickets for a nickelback show once lol. He was taking his wife and she was so upset they were fake she didn't wanna accept the replacement ones stubhub offered but I'm like... u drove all that way to see Nickelback like just follow thru lol

 

Usually the tickets that don't work from Stubhub are not actually fake. It's that the seller either forgot they sold them, or are just a shitty person, and decided to make a new print or use the mobile barcode. (Source: me at work looking at scans as they happen). Also, if you ever have trouble with tickets scanning, always always always have it checked out at the box office immediately. The number of people who just leave and then call the next day to scream is unreal and there is almost always something they could have done when it happened.

 

the only thing from this merch line i could wear without being embarrassed is that crop top.

re: tickets, i must just have shitty luck because i looked at detroit yesterday since the videos are actually making me hype for tour and couldn't find anything decent below like $500.

 

There are lower bowl tickets for under $200 on Ticketmaster, but the prices for that show are surprising. The prices in Denver have dropped much more than what I'm seeing for that Detroit show. They're at the back of the stadium, so I don't know if that fits your description of "decent seats". But I think this tour will be interesting due to the giant video wall/floor, and the two B-stages, that it makes some of those further back or higher up seats more appealing.

 

Jelly that you're all " I could totally rock that crop top"

 

i totally wouldn't mind "bad" seats, i really just want to be there since i'm a late fan and have never seen her before. but i'm not sure i can justify $400 + parking etc for my boyfriend and i too squint from the last row of the stadium haha. I made myself really miserable by determining that A row tickets would be $1,500 together, which is...ludicrous. I went on Parahoy for that cost.

 

I would just keep checking every day then. There's a good chunk of tickets unsold for Detroit, and with their goal to "sell the last seats right before she takes the stage", I'm assuming those ticket prices will continue to drop all the way until the day of and even well into the day of the show. Either that or through Stubhub or even scalpers outside the stadium, I think people will really be trying to unload tickets closer to the start of the show.

 

is it normal for US tickets to be way more expensive than UK? snake pit tickets here were £120

 

damn i paid like 850 for mine. you guys got lucky over there

 

Which is about $200 isn’t it? I guess the pound is a bit stronger at the moment so it might be less.

To be honest, I’m not really willing to pay more than £50 for a single gig, which is why I tend to have to miss out on these bigger artists. With my wage, £100 is far more than I can afford and be able to pay rent and bills.