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iPhone X Leather Folio - Cosmos Blue

 

That link isn’t working. Is it on sale or something?

 

iPhone X Leather Folio - Cosmos Blue

Look at the reviews on that one. That should work. I think I linked to the UK education store by mistake.

 

Interesting. I currently have this folio case:

Clear Folio - X

I haven’t had a problem with making calls using that case. Although that’s probably because the case isn’t as slim/minimalist as the Apple one which means that when folded back it’s slightly angled, not flush, against the back of the phone and doesn’t completely cover the back camera, which is where the noise canceling piece is. So whether intentional or not I guess it’s a better design, ha.

 

Yeah, for the price you don’t want any issues tbh. I just went for a standard Spigen one which I’m happy with atm.

 

Saw a couple people assume Android slows down old phones as well..

LG: "Never have, never will! We care what our customers think."

Samsung: "Product quality has been and will always be Samsung Mobile’s top priority. We ensure extended battery life of Samsung mobile devices through multi-layer safety measures, which include software algorithms that govern the battery charging current and charging duration. We do not reduce CPU performance through software updates over the lifecycles of the phone.” in fact, Samsung claims the Note 8 will retain 95% of its battery life after 2 years.

Motorola: "We do not throttle CPU performance based on older batteries"

HTC has also confirmed they do not throttle CPU performance.

If people think that PCs throttle performance overtime from poor battery performance, I'm not quite sure where you're getting that from. My three year old macbook is as fast as the day I got it, and so is my 2 year old work PC running Windows 7.

 

They just don’t let old phones upgrade to the new operating systems. We know this. Why is this news?

(I would bet good money your three year old PC does not benchmark the same today as it did out of the box.)

 

Does iPhone only slow down with an OS upgrade? It doesn't monitor the battery health and make a decision based on that? That wouldn't seem right to me if replacing the battery instantly resolves the issue. Besides, these phones still get monthly patches and security updates, which could include slow downs if they really wanted to. My LG phone got updates every month for two years, my S8 is still getting monthly updates.

And I would bet good money that a factory reset would restore it to working condition without needing a new battery. Maybe because it's a business class notebook but I notice no difference.

 

The new features of the OS are what max out the device, it’s the combo of a depleted battery and pushing the chip.

Take a benchmark right now. Post with a hash. Come back in three years and do the same.

 

Fair, but there's a difference between purposely slowing down a device and the device getting slowed down from maxing out its resources and hardware degredation, though.

 

I don’t think you understand what is happening. I don’t have time to explain it.

 

From CNET:

"The company says iOS does this to counteract problems found in aging lithium-ion batteries. When a battery gets older, it doesn't hold a charge as well and can unexpectedly shut down if it's put under too much stress. Apple's software prevents that from happening by slowing performance.
What you get is a trade-off. Your phone isn't as snappy as it used to be, but it also doesn't turn itself off when the battery says it's far from drained"

Apple does it on purpose so your phone doesn't unexpectedly die. I'd rather have the choice of my phone dying or shutting down around 15% than having a super laggy phone. Give the user the choice. Im glad they want to work toward that in the future.

 

I can’t fathom a shut my phone off randomly while I’m working switch. Sounds like an Android thing.

 

Yeah I mean it depends on manufacturer, but towards the end, my LG G5 would randomly die at 15%, but it was smooth as butter so I didn't mind. I also had a spare battery so it wasn't as big an issue going from dying to 100%. I can totally understand why others would hate that, but to me it's worth the trade off. My S8 is new and my first Samsung phone in 4 years so I can't really speak to it.

 

I don’t agree. Not only with the trade off of your computer just restarting, but than any LG is smooth.

 

Idk, you clearly have not touched an LG phone in quite a while. I personally strongly dislike them at this point due to a million other problems, but smoothness was never one of them.

 

Yes I have. It’s not what I’d call smooth at all. Android doesn’t handle responsiveness to a level I find acceptable. Still. It’s that simple.

 

My girlfriend has commented that her 6S has random crashes and lag (it's only 3 months old), and that at times mine seemed much snappier, and I've observed it as well. Idk, to each their own on that front, but I'm not seeing it. When it comes to speed and responsiveness, the gap has shrunken exponentially. The V30 is incredibly snappy, it's a shame that its display is utter shit.

 

Your girlfriend should fix her phone then.

 

I was with her when she got it brand new, after having to get it replaced for free because Apple never housed the battery in there correctly, so it was just banging around in there, causing her phone to go into bootloops while we were in another country (real safe, Apple). I didn't notice it being any snappier than mine before she put anything on there that could have "broken" it.

But anyways, I'm sorry to derail, my main point was just to point out that those who claim Android manufacturers also throttle performance on purpose are incorrect. I understand everyone has their preferences and reasons for owning their phone and that's totally fine, there are things about the iPhone that I do agree are better than what many other manufacturers do.

 

HTC and Motorola say they don’t slow old phones like Apple does • r/Android

Yes this sounds wayyyyy better to just let the phone fail. lol.

 

Apple is not wrong for throttling older phones, and the reason they do it makes complete sense, but they definitely should have been more transparent about it.

 

Kind of makes me curious, why not just give the phone some kind of check engine light? You can download battery health apps that will give you the health info and tell you how much the battery has degraded. Apple should consider implementing that directly into the software. I would rather know my battery is on the fritz and it’s time to replace it, rather than indescriminately having my phone slowed down after a software update. The average user doesn’t understand the tech under the hood, and may not know or care that batteries degrade over time. Instead of an alert saying “You should consider replacing your battery”, they decided to make the phone slower and leave the user wondering why without any explanation until after the fact. That lack of transparency is why this story is the big deal it is to a lot of people.

 

That’s what they’re doing with a software update.

 

I figure Apple just wouldn’t want their phones to say, “Hey we’re slowing down your phone until you fix the battery.” I doubt the press would be as bad as it is now, but I can see why Apple wouldn’t necessarily want a message like that to pop up when the battery starts to fail. Most people, myself included until recently, would have freaked out. But I guess it happened anyways.