Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Rian Johnson, December 15, 2017) Movie • Page 187

The humor didn't bother me as much this time around (that was one of my main sore points, just the shifts in tone). I have a soft spot for the prequels so Canto Bight doesn't bother me as much as others (yep, I don't mind rewatching them ha). I'm much more accepting of Luke's fate as well. This was such an interesting viewing experience. Also, I think the audience this time around was much more excitable.
I'm dying to see these deleted scenes ha I feel like I want to consume everything about this movie.

 

Sometimes I wonder where my mind is at in these moments that I don’t see this stuff lol

 

Regarding complaints about Holdo not telling Poe her plan... he'd just been demoted by Leia and walked up to her acting like he was running the place. The Resistance is a military at the end of the day and there is a chain of command. Not to mention Holdo also felt Poe was responsible for getting them into the mess.

(Echoing the Laura Dern love. It's been great seeing so much of her this year in Twin Peaks and now Star Wars)

 

It happens in a movie like this. So much was going on.

I only have a clear memory of it because I was specifically looking for the moment on my second viewing because I missed it the first time.

 

There were plenty of callbacks to the original trilogy that were weak and strong. The falcon returning to Crait while the TIE Fighter Attack theme played? Hell yeah, give me the nostalgia.

 

Wish I would have read this before I saw it again this morning so I could have looked out for it.

Also, I’m curious as to what the other beings in the throne room are. The two cloaked ones with the blue eyes that suddenly disappeared before the fight started

 

I viewed them as a reference to dudes like this...

Sim Aloo

 

Saw it for the second time this morning. Leia’s Superman scene didn’t bother me at all this time although I was slightly bothered the first time.

I loved the movie. This morning though people didn’t seem to be too responsive to it. There was some laughter for the humorous scenes but not much. There didn’t seem to be much excitement for some of the climactic scenes. Maybe because it was one of the first showings this morning?

One of my favorite things is BB-8 mimicking the noise those little droids on the Death Star made while he was in disguise.

Also, was the guy looking through the binoculars on Crait also present during the battle on Hoth?

 

'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' Sets Sights on Becoming the Latest $200M+ Opener - Box Office Mojo

After taking in an estimated $104.78 million on Friday, Star Wars: The Last Jedi is looking at a $215+ million three-day debut. This is the second largest Friday ever behind only The Force Awakens ($119.1 million). The film received an "A" CinemaScore.

I am very worried for Rian Johnson's career.

 

I’ve read some reliable estimates of 225-230 million.

Insane.

 

BB8 was way too extra in this, love the lil dude but man

It's me robo macguffin

 

From the leaked set photos it looked like they were riding a practical fathier, so I’m bummed it’s all CGI...they were moving Way way faster than I was expecting though, beyond what a practical rig could do.

 

Interesting how RT and IMDB have roughly the same amount of "user ratings" (Letterboxd has another 24k), and how different they are with the score. Gee, I wonder how that happened.

 

The throne room scene was in return of the Jedi, from the villain making the hero look out the window to watch their friends die to the second in command killing the big bad to save them. The elevator scene before that too, when the hero gives them self up and tries to turn the villain to the light on the way to meet the big bad. Kylo and Luke was a redo of obi wan and Vader, down to the dialogue. Krayt (sp?) was the hoth battle.

Our characters being on a ship on the run isn’t risky. That’s how Han and leia spend most of empire. I don’t think we know all too much more about the force than we did before (which I think is fine; I think the handling of the force was great in this movie). There was no reason for there to be expectations on Rey anyway; TFA never gets any hints as to who we she is. Luke’s arc didn’t make a lot of sense to me, mostly because it’s never explained what goes on that makes Luke - a man who believed his genocidal father could be turned good again - decide, even for a moment, to murder his nephew, and this is what his whole arc hinges on.

 

I really liked that. Despite being a "legend" as he stated, he never ended up becoming that stereotypical all-knowing guru character. He became flawed and was still real to his personality. Much better than just recycling the whole arc with Yoda training Luke into Luke training Rey.

 

This thread just got really dumb.

 

TLJ definitely took risks my dude.... I dislike it, but it definitely took risks.

 

Cool

 

Wtf this is real?!

I was talking about that he could be cool for a standalone SW like a year ago itt

 

Considering that most fanboys expected certain things to happen and none of them ended up happening is a risk, I'd say.

 

its insane how many themes and messages Rian touched and nailed in this movie. I think as time goes on people will see this.
Expectations (Us).
Hubris (Snoke,Jedi,Poe).
Failure(Luke/everybody).
Leadership(Holdo/Poe).
Purpose and fighting something bigger than yourself (Finn).
Legends and how thats both a bad and good thing. (Luke/perception of hte Jedi/the kids being inspired by legends)
Hope. Empowering the young.
Being a teacher/master.
Letting the past die.
Animal Cruelty.
Decisions/Aactions/Choices meaning more than whats inside your mind.
Taoism.
Survival/money over morality (DJ)



Thats 14 that were touched upon throughout the movie and Im probably missing some im sure.

 

You described about 15 minutes of a 2 and a half hour movie. And Kylo and Luke was not a redo of Obi-Wan and Vader, if you think that ... I think you missed a big point of the movie. Why Luke was where he was. Why he was there the way he was. What it meant for him, the legend, and the Jedi. (Nor was that Hoth.)

Also, I'd argue Kylo didn't kill Snoke to save Rey. He did it because he wanted to be in power. Huge difference from the Anakin turn.

Slowly drifting away as everyone around them dies, unable to go to hyperspace in plain view of the First Order? No, that's not how Han and Leia spend most of Empire.

I don't know how you could watch the movie and think the use of the Force in this movie wasn't a "risk."

Yes it does, and that's why the internet spent two years talking about it!

I dunno, I think that if you miss one of the key parts of the film coming in saying it's the same as the last trilogy and not risky ... eh, that doesn't lend much weight to that statement. You're describing one of the key "risks" this film takes right here.

Building an entire movie with a foundational argument of failure is a huge risk.

 

Also whoever mentioned how the space portion felt very BSG was right on.

 

Didn't love it, which is disappointing, but I'll watch it again eventually.

The next one should be interesting. I dig the idea of letting the past die.