Brand New - Science Fiction (August 17, 2017) [ARCHIVED] Album • Page 1620

I’ve had no problem completely cutting the band out of my life, likely because my connection to them has greatly diminished over the years. I quickly deleted everything from my music library and took down the one piece of art I had on my wall related to them. Now I have to figure out what to do with all this stuff I have. I’m thinking that I’ll sell it and donate the money to a women’s advocacy or child abuse survivor group.

 

no, it's because pwr bttm's fanbase is mostly made up of queer kids that used pwr bttm's music as a shelter from abuse, finding out they were abusers basically shattered any sort of influence the band had for anyone

 

That was definitely a huge part of it and caused it to be picked up by national media like NPR.

 

I’ll continue to enjoy music, just not Brand New’s music. As mentioned in various other places, there’s lots of great bands out there that are doing things the right way. Ya just gotta find genuine artists and remember that if something happens, it’s not a reflection of you.

 

I’ll change any Brand New related usernames for free for the next week. PM with what you’d like it changed to and I’ll do it when I can.

 

Man that link a few pages back is crazy.

I don’t even know how to put it into words.....like it reminds me of every stupid teen romance tv episode or movie from that time period where the guy is lying/arranging the girl along for years and appears to the viewer to genuinely love the girl and then you find out at the end of the episode that he actually does this with like 6 other girls. I told my story earlier about how my ex was seduced and later ditched by a guy 6+ years her senior when she was 17 and I just always hated hearing about dudes that did that shit to young girls.

He tried giving off that shy guy im so humble vibe bullshit for so long when it turns out the whole time he was using his talent and looks to hook in young teens who worshipped him and sexually abuse them all to feed into his ego and apparent need to be ‘loved’ and adored and fill the apparently empty void where his soul should be. I guess a very small part of me feels bad because it’s obvious he has some serious mental health issues, but fuck dude, depression and anxiety and bipolar Disorder and whatever else it is you’re dealing with isn’t an excuse to do that to teen girls.

For the 3rd time in this thread, I’ll say it—you need to drop all hope you had of disappearing and become the biggest fucking advocate and start a program that goes to festivals where these younger scene bands play and do talks and hire people to help teach the next generation of Jesse Lacey’s not to take advantage of their young fans. That’s what you need to do, period, or youre never going to do enough to even appear like you’re coming close to making amends for this.

Who knows, maybe you’re okay with that as long as your family and close friends forgive you. But something tells me your extreme need for approval and adoration is never going to let you feel okay with this many people hating you....so you might as well try and do something positive instead of crawling back under a rock.

 

I don’t understand why he would make it private. If there’s Andy Hurley accusations drag him out. It’s time to drive fear back into the guilty and know it’s not going to stay quiet anymore.

 

There must be so many entertainers shaking in their boots right now

 

Part of me wonders if they're shaking or if they're so arrogant that they think they're safe. I think a lot of these men never feel guilt because they never think they did anything wrong, which sucks too.

 

This is a good, and unfortunate point.

 

Tonight I was restless so I did what I usually do. I got in my car and aimlessly drove until I ended up at a gas station to buy things I don't need.

I've had a burnt copy of Science Fiction that hasn't left my car's cd player since the day it was put out, and I've been avoiding not only hearing it, but removing it. I normally listen to music on my phone, and this entire situation has made it tough to even hear a few seconds of the cd playing when I unplug the usb cable.

I gave it one last listen tonight, and I'm not sure why. I felt unsound, guilty, and as if I was enabling all of what I'm vehemently against. But that record taught me how to love myself again. It gave me faith that I could feel something for another human being that was lost with being hurt, and lied to.

Needless to say, I won't be returning to Brand New's catalogue for a very long time, if ever. I suppose this last listen was some sort of a send off. I haven't been able to take down the framed lyric books and posters. Taking them down and seeing the empty space seems as if it would be more of a reminder than leaving them there and ignoring them. I want to replace them with something meaningful, but it seems so hard when this music meant the world to me.

I feel guilty about how slow I know I'm going to remove pieces of this band from my life. I agree with Jason on the memories I created to this music not changing. I just don't know how to go about this in my own way without slighting the victims. It's like I'm letting them down because it's hard to let go of something that I thought defined my being.

I'm lost. I'm glad you're all expressing sentiments of how you're doing within this situation. I just want to feel joy from listening to music again instead of feeling like I'm putting something on to avoid hearing sounds that meant everything to me.

 

Was listening to music on shuffle today and Same Logic came on and my initial instinct was to skip it, but instead I just sat there with it. For a song that I love so much, it’s amazing how little joy hearing it gave me. It just felt so...hollow. It’s crazy. It didn’t hit me just how important this music was until it was ostensibly stripped away.

Last year, for my birthday, my sister went on eBay and found a poster from the Brand New/Thrice/mwY concert we went to ten years ago. That is something I know I can’t take down. That’s one of the best memories of my life.

 

It’s weird, I didn’t get really into the band until this year. But I got like, way into them. SF was undoubtedly my AOTY. I got Deja and TDAG on vinyl after years of only having Daisy. I bought three Brand New shirts at once just because I had become so in love with the band, and wore them all the fucking time. I was really excited they finally really clicked with me. But now it feels like going through a really bad break up. And right now I’m at the phase where I’m like “I know it’s wrong, but I want to go back”.

But it’s also weird, I’m selling all my vinyl and CDs. I threw away the shirts. And it feels shitty. I think the one that feels the worst is my TDAG vinyl. My girlfriend bought it for me as gift after a very very rough period between us earlier this year. That day felt like the beginning of the pendulum swinging up again. So that record is kind of like a soveignier of that. But I can’t in good conscience keep it. I don’t really cry due to past trauma kind of blocking me from it, but I definitely tear up a bit whenever I look over and see it on my shelf.

And I guess as shitty as this feels for me, I also have to remind myself that not only are their much bigger fans of the band feeling worse. But all of this is because there’s victims left hurting worse than all of us combined as a result of the “power” a career in music gave someone, and the disturbing level in which they abused it. I still stand by my belief that Jesse can be redeemed. He’s not unfixable, or just a “bad” dude who can’t ever be “good”. But I also want to make it clear, I don’t think the music he wrote during all of this can ever be redeemed. It only took him a year after their debut to begin abusing his fame. And then that continued (from what I’ve seen) up until a little after Daisy came out. All of those songs have been written at the cost of these women.

I’m sorry for getting long and rambly. I’m really upset. I’m not the most consistently active person on the site, but I’m glad I have all of you to talk to and listen to during all of this. Only one person I know IRL gives a single fuck about this it seems. So it’s nice having a group of people to be sad with.

 

Hmm. Postponing. Just cancel em

 

I guess people saw this coming. Jesse probably has a lot of damage control to do within his family and friend circles.

 

Well, for a band that seemed intent on hanging it up, not giving a shit, teasing their demise - the ‘postponing’ bit sure comes as a surprise.

 

Well that was inevitable.

 

I’d honestly be pretty surprised if they play a show again. I feel like they’re done. Guess we shall see

 

Well that solves the internal dilemma I was having over having wasted my money or going purely to see if he says anything about the situation and hoping I could ignore everything for the sake of the music. I'll spend the night in with my girlfriend instead.

 

They can refund me my travel and hotel money while they're at it. Fuck sake.

 

I mentioned the FOB stuff offhandedly and I've got many young women defending both Andy and Pete on twitter to me. Not going to bother responding, it's very sad.

 

Tell me about it! I'm gonna see if travel insurance will cover it but I'm not sure it will. Urghhhh bye bye £300.

 

Don’t think postponing actually means that.