Brand New - Science Fiction (August 17, 2017) [ARCHIVED] Album • Page 1599

That album is made for cranking up on a Sunday with a cold one between football games.

 

The current silence is quite obviously for a reason. They will not go onstage in four days ignoring all of this. It has gotten way too big for that to even be a possibility if they wanted to. We’ll hear something soon.

 

Like I said before, let’s try to be patient. This is not going to be solved by a statement no matter what. He’s probably dealing with a personal shitstorm at the moment and honestly owes us nothing. I’m not taking his side by any means, I’m just saying don’t take public silence as meaning that this isn’t being dealt with.

 

Can I just say, as much as this hurts having loved Brand New, hometown heroes, etc..... Between all the recent Hollywoods exposures, this, and so much others... I'm glad people have been more comfortable (or at least it's been more respected) lately speaking out, even if only in a fraction of a percent.
That is one thing I will always champion. Don't stay silent. No one has to suffer alone.

 

They said it all
Saying nothing at all

 

Very silly...but to each their own.

 

Do you like the Movielife?

 

Good to know some things don't change even in the worse of times lol.

 

I said it before, but I would not be surprised if Jesse talked about it without naming it in one of his speeches at a show.

 

Here’s a really interesting piece I read on this from last year, written by a woman who married a man later arrested and convicted of rape:

My husband raped two women — and I had to answer for his crimes

 

You asked me this before and i listened to them on your behalf. They good

 

Man, this is all still crazy. It’s insane to think about how this all took a 180 turn. This year was supposed to be the end of an era. They finally put out their final, and what quite a few consider to be their best album. And that alone was a shocker in itself. A lot of people probably figured they’d just like whatever music came out, but was anyone really expecting an album as good as Science Fiction? Another classic record to add to this bands already established discography.

We assumed they were gonna go out with a final tour and we would all celebrate many years of memories and good music associated with this band. We all thought it was going to be the perfect goodbye to a band we all loved. This obviously was last thing any of us were expecting to happen during this “goodbye.”

Obviously, how everyone’s dealing with this personally doesn’t even compare to any of the pain or trauma the victims have, had and will continue to go through in dealing with this situation. But we also shouldn't feel guilty for how we feel about what has transpired over the last day and a half. Clearly we’re all music lovers and it plays a HUGE part in all of our lives. Clearly Brand New was THE biggest band in this scene and on this site and meant A LOT to so many of us.

I’m sure I’m feeling what a lot of us are feeling. That even now, we still don’t want to believe it. That we’re hoping, somehow, this all ends up not being true. Hell, the Conor Obert situation keeps popping up in my head. Innocent until proven guilty right?

But the truth is, after what has all came out, there’s no way this isn’t true. It’s gained enough traction that there’s absolutely NO WAY that the band hasn’t seen it and/or heard about it. The silence from the band also speaks volumes about it. Obviously like many people have said, lawyers and managers have most likely been in contact and a statement of some sort is being prepared, so no one’s going to say anything yet just yet.

A lot of things makes sense now, like the “Sealed to Me” speech and his constant degradation of himself. He constantly put on the act of “not being good enough” or “feeling inadequate” in being apart of this band and the god complex we put him under. He made us think that he just couldn’t handle all of the popularity and being in the public eye. But now it’s becoming clear that he just knew he was a horrible person for these things he’s done, and once again, we had put him under this god complex.

Half of Science Fiction ended up being played yesterday cause “Same Logic” was stuck in my head. I’ll personally not stop listening to the music that has already been released. But every time I’ll listen, all of this will come to mind. This is now the band’s legacy. Hopefully when this is all said and done, the victims will get the closure they deserve and they can go on with their lives as peacefully as it can be. And everyone on the opposite side of this situation will have come forward and taken responsibility for actions. Whether it’s just Jesse alone, or anyone else on the inside who may have known.

 

Welll.... I guess its a good thing Glassjaw always edged BN out a slight bit my favorite band from my hometow-err-island of Long Island.... I know Daryl had even self admitted wrong in the past but I have friends with Deja Entendu tats... cant imagine how they feel rn.

 

That's brutal. Ya know... when they try to remove them.

 

the one friend i spoke to on it said he has no plans to atm since he did it BECAUSE it helped him find his way in life but he admitted he'll always see it as bittersweet to say the least. idk if i couldnt at least do a cover up, maybe at most have a subtle nod left but still covered if it meant that much... but as someone who always wanted to be inked up... stuff like this always made me nervous.

esp since most mine would wanna be dedicated to art/styles that meant something to me. only band i ever wanted any tat from still safe is alice in chains and layne is dead whats known is known... gotta be a hell of situation rn

 

in hindsight this is preeeeeettty fucked up

 

this is my favorite album of theirs ._. Degausser (one of my fav songs ever) helped me through a relationship ending and the pain of it... then it coming back and humbling me in face of, be smarter/better.... sigh... maybe I needa be out of this thread :(

 

This is my favorite album of all time, or it was. I don’t even know

 

i wonder how the artist responsible for that cover feels on this... im sure i can guess but hell, what a shit situation to have YOUR OWN ART tied to a thing like this.

lil buzzed atm sorry for not remembering the artists name but i do remember it was someone elses who had a portfolio to say the least

 

(I meant the cover.)

 

i remember my mom going through the michael jackson shit a decade or so ago... im just realizing now how similar this feels to that.

 

In an effort to address recent events and the public conversation currently happening, I feel it is important to make a clear and personal statement.

The actions of my past have caused pain and harm to a number of people, and I want to say that I am absolutely sorry. I do not stand in defense of myself nor do I forgive myself. I was selfish, narcissistic, and insensitive in my past, and there are a number of people who have had to shoulder the burden of my failures. I apologize for the hurt I have caused, and hope to be able to take the correct actions to earn forgiveness and trust.

Early on in my life, I developed a dependent and addictive relationship with sex. I was scared of it, ashamed, and unwilling or unable to admit it, and so it grew into a consistent and terrible problem. Years ago, after admitting my habits and cheating to my then soon to be wife, I began to approach my problem in a serious way. I entered professional treatment, both in group therapy and individual counseling, and revealed the realities of what a terrible place I had gotten to in my life, and what a terrible impact my actions had on people.

Lust, sex, love, and arousal were coping tools for me, and I returned to them repeatedly. I detached my own feelings and emotions from most of my sexual interactions. I hid, or lied about my behavior to escape reproach. I was a habitual cheater. I have been unfaithful in many, if not most of my relationships, including the relationship with my wife, who has with all of her might, patience, and grace, tried to hold our marriage together, despite having to endure the pain of the revelations of my past. It is heart wrenching that the most important changes in my life have come at the expense of others.

I am sorry for how I have hurt people, mistreated them, lied, and cheated. I am sorry for ignoring the way in which my position, status, and power as a member of a band affected the way people viewed me or their approach to their interactions with me. And I am sorry for how often I have not afforded women the respect, support, or honesty that they deserved, and which is their right. I believe in the equality and autonomy of all, but in my life I have been more of a detriment to these ideals than an advocate.

I am working to shed all my narcissism and my self obsession, and to be better. In sobriety I have changed my life and my mind in real and important ways. I have also revealed the truth of my behaviors to myself and to others. I do not have words to express the patience and help my wife has offered me. I love my family with an intensity and realness that I have never felt before, and as a husband and a father I have been granted the opportunity to wake up each day with the intent to serve my family and the people around me, and to feel, for the first time that I have purpose.

The fact remains that none of us get to put a wall up between who we are and who we were. I need to earn forgiveness. Concepts like repentance, compassion, and love, are made real through actions, and it’s through my actions that I need to prove change. I hope I can show humility, and that the pain I have caused people can heal. I am not above reproach, and no one should be.

Jesse Lacey

 

SHIT

Damn, here comes the reaction and backlash

 

yeah gonna go ahead and say that's not good enough