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Thor: Ragnarok (Taika Waititi, November 3, 2017) Movie • Page 12

Discussion in 'Entertainment Forum' started by Henry, May 31, 2016.

  1. SpyKi

    You must fix your heart Supporter

    I think this might be my second favourite Marvel film after Guardians.
     
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  2. Connor

    we're all a bunch of weirdos on a quest to belong Prestigious

    For me, this is everything Guardians wants to be, but where Guardians feels like they are trying really hard, this was effortless.

    Also unlike almost all the Marvel movies, the fight scenes in this were visually pleasing
     
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  3. Tim

    grateful all the fucking time Supporter

    I reluctant to say that so soon, but this might be my second favorite after GOTG 2. And, Wonder Woman is my favorite DC film. And, Logan is my favorite Fox film. What a gosh darn good year for comic book films.

    Oh, yeah, and I guess Homecoming came out. Um... That was definitely a film Sony has done. Garfield for life.
     
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  4. Serh

    Prestigious Prestigious

    $118 million debut, supposedly
     
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  5. mad

    I was right. Prestigious

    would I still enjoy this even if I haven't seen a single Thor movie or anything marvel other than the first Avengers?
     
  6. SpyKi

    You must fix your heart Supporter

    You could do. There's not much that relies on previous movies and what is there mostly explained.
     
  7. Greg

    The Forgotten Son Supporter

    Didn’t they find the Quinjet in Fiji?
     
  8. Tim

    grateful all the fucking time Supporter

    I watched this a second time on a whim today. Dang it do I love this film.

    The humor is getting a lot of justified attention, but the action is really wonderful, too, as are most of the character moments. The sequence in the third act where Led Zep kicks back in is so satisfying both as a peak in Thor's journey and as just a surface level fun sequence; Thor's thunder, Valkyrie's fireworks and swagger, and Hulk vs Fenris back-to-back-to-back is just wild. The opening sequence nails that vintage comic book Mjolnir-spin so well, and the gladiator match lasts exactly the right amount of time. And, on an emotional level, all the interactions between Loki and Thor were a delight. Besides a couple gags joke as Asgard is exploding, I don't think the humor undermines either the emotions or the action even a little (I'd sooner argue that the humor enhances them), as much as that seems to be the popular opinion.

    Also, during this watch, I found myself really appreciating the way the idea of "Ragnarok" tied into the creative vision for this film. I know some people are bummed that an epic mythological premise was used for what borders on sitcom, but honestly, I think it's perfect for what they were going for here. I liked Dark World more than most people, but Thor's solo films and use in Avengers has been a consistent weak point for the MCU. Chris Hemsworth himself was tired of his character. In the same way that Thor and company had to destroy Asgard in order to save Asgard, Hemsworth and company really had to blow this franchise up to save it. The final product is still a love letter to both these characters' past appearances and their source material (oh my goodness is the Jack Kirby here delicious, like, wow), but it also gleefully destroys and rebuilds in all the best ways.
     
  9. iCarly Rae Jepsen Nov 4, 2017
    (Last edited: Nov 4, 2017)
    iCarly Rae Jepsen

    run away with me Platinum

    Anyone else unable to stop calling this Thor FraggleRock?
    Grandmaster, Hela and Valkyrie were all great additions, acting wise and also varying degrees of fierceness , Grandmaster
    being pleased when Valkyrie touched him then winking at Thor was amazing
    I liked that Hela had a very clear motivation and was also campy in the best way possible
    Tumblr is gonna freak the fuck out about Strange and Loki being in a scene together
    the slaves, don't use the s word, prisoners who do unpaid work

    only issue, not enough Goldblum which is always the case, and also they had the army of Valkyries riding on pegasuses (pegasi? neither sounds right) and that only lasted only like 5 seconds, Tessa should have been on a pegasus the entire time and it was never explained

    also why did they release this immediately after Halloween when Hela and Valkyrie are perfect costumes
     
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  10. Anthony_

    A (Cancelled) Dork Prestigious

    This was fantastic. I don't know if I'm ready to call it the best Marvel film of 2017 just yet, but I'm already pretty close.
     
  11. Greg

    The Forgotten Son Supporter

    I’ve seen GOTG2 and Spidey twice and this once so far. As of right now, GOTG2 is my favorite, by far.
     
  12. Anthony_

    A (Cancelled) Dork Prestigious

    If I'm being totally honest, GOTG2 might be my least favorite of the three. And I really liked GOTG2.
     
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  13. Greg

    The Forgotten Son Supporter

    I enjoyed GOTG2 better upon a second viewing. I liked Spidey less on second viewing. Need to see Thor again, but it was pretty underwhelming to me.
     
  14. Anthony_

    A (Cancelled) Dork Prestigious

    Just the fact that Marvel allowed Taika to make one of his comedies, only with Thor and Hulk and Loki in it, elevates this one for me. So damn funny and maybe the most visually interesting of the MCU films (and, again, I don't say that lightly considering how imaginative and cool the visuals in the GOTG films are).
     
  15. Greg

    The Forgotten Son Supporter

    After all the praise it got bettor release I was expecting more than just some jokes.
     
  16. Tim

    grateful all the fucking time Supporter

    The sense of humor in this film is clearly its most defining aspect, but it baffles me that someone can think that's all this was. But, if conversations surrounding GOTG 2 have taught me anything, it's that people are easily distracted by jokes. Oh well.

    Also, Spider-Man: Homecoming is easily my least favorite comic book film released so far this year. Justice League could still end up being trash, but I kinda hope it's surprisingly fun so that I can continue calling Spidey my least favorite, lol. I'm at least hopeful that Venom and the animated Miles film will be for Sony what films this year have been for Marvel, DC, and Fox.
     
  17. tucah

    not champ Prestigious

    I liked but didn't love both GOTG2 and Homecoming, this is easily my favorite of the three.
     
  18. carrytheweird

    www.nrdc.org

    I think i'm going to check this out tonight.
     
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  19. awakeohsleeper

    I do not exist.

    This is how I feel.
     
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  20. Greg

    The Forgotten Son Supporter

    That’s certainly not all it was, but I think they sacrificed moments that should have had a bigger impact but were cheapened to do a gag.

    I fully understand I am the outlier here.

    It also doesn’t help that I am not really feeling emotions right now. That alone has s huge impact in viewing a movie meant to make you laugh the whole time.

    It’s a good movie, but nowhere near top MCU to me.
     
  21. Tim

    grateful all the fucking time Supporter

    I'm not sure what you mean by not feeling emotions right now, but that sounds pretty personal and pretty rough, so whatever's going on there, sorry.

    As for the film itself, I can only think of a couple poorly timed gags towards the very end that derail the impact, which is granted the worst time for that to happen. I was invested enough in the story by then, though, that when they went from the gag back to the emotional impact, I personally found it easy to get into that mindset. I'm especially thinking of Thor and Heimdal watching Asgard explode, which shouldn't have had the Korg joke immediately beforehand, but it still landed for me just fine.

    Outside of that, I thought the humor added to the pathos (by underlining the humanity of these characters) more than detracted from it. I thought every interaction between Thor and Loki was especially touching, considering the complexity of their relationship and history. Valkyrie also had some good moments, though, which were elevated by Tessa Thompson's fantastic performance, which wonderfully blended swagger and sorrow.

    Ultimately, what does and doesn't work for someone is deeply personal and relative and all that. So, with how specific this film's vision was, I do get how it wouldn't stick with everyone. It just ended up being everything I wanted and needed so thoroughly right now that part of me is unreasonably shocked at more ambivalent responses, lol.
     
  22. iCarly Rae Jepsen

    run away with me Platinum

    I know Thor lost his hammer and a fucking eye and Bruce is no longer in control of the Hulk and may not exist anymore, that's pretty serious
     
  23. sawhney[rusted]2

    I'll write you into all of my songs Supporter

    Started out very rocky for me, but once Goldblum comes in, the movie seriously takes off.
     
  24. Greg

    The Forgotten Son Supporter

    Yet the first seemed to have no impact and the second was interrupted with a joke.
     
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  25. Tim

    grateful all the fucking time Supporter

    Started off rocky? But Korg doesn't get introduced until after Goldblum!

    ...

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