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Makes sense, thanks. Kinda assumed they'd use Bray being out as an excuse for an ill-conceived push.

 

Weird that they threw a guy on the main roster without any promo chops at all.

Oh wait, no it isn't.

 

Bray seemed on pace to face Roman as a face, which, they could honestly still do. Introduce him after AJ fails at extreme rules and set that up for MITB. Especially now that Roman is trending heel.

And then he stunk it up against Ambrose in the build to WM. Cant push a guy with no promo skills and mediocre ring work when his two natural opponents (Lesnar, Reigns) also have no promo skills and have limited ring work.

Heyman v Strownman on the mic would be a blood bath. He'd end Strowman's career in one promo

I also dont want to see Wyatt v Lesnar unless Bray is going over. Him beating Lesnar and facing Roman for the title would be a great boost...otherwise, it just further buries him as a guy who is never getting the title.

Flair being banned from ringside is a start for the womens title. Charlotte can actually win clean for once, and the match wont be about Flair.

Either that or we're gonna get another woman interfering...which Im fine with.[/QUOTE]

 

Gonna give Ryback a standing O for this.


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Today I sit and fly home and for the first time in years feel absolutely free. I will start by saying I did request to be taken off of WWE television until myself and Vince could get a yes or no on a new deal. This has been going on since my IC Title run and had been nothing but a major strain on my life as all I ever wanted to do was work for WWE. I was told to head home until we agree or not agree to specific terms and contrary to reports it isn’t over money or a bus that stuff was settled a while ago. It comes down to a major problem I have with not only WWE but wrestling in general.

Wrestling is pre determined, we as performers know before we go out to that ring or perform a backstage scene who is winning and losing etc or have a general idea of what we are going to say. It blows my mind how in a sport which is pre determined from a company standpoint winners are paid so much more than the losers. Every single person who works for WWE from top to bottom is absolutely just as valuable as the next. The winners cannot win unless the losers go out there and agree to lose to them.

It blows my mind that in this day and age though we still adhere to this formula. Obviously things have always been this way, but does that make them right? Times have changed and our goal as humans should be to evolve and learn from our past and the past of others so we could make this world a better place. Why is it a guy who is told he is going to go out and lose and does everything he is told be paid not only less, but much less than said winner over a period of time. Every single performer for WWE sacrifices the same amount of time from home and their families and every single man or women goes out and does what they are told. Looking at this formula though losers turn into what fans like to call jobbers and their value decreases in the companies eyes and before you know it they get released. For what? For doing exactly as they are told!

Why not pay the talent equally? The winners have more MERCH as it is or are supposed to anyways so they get that extra perk, but why make the guy who is told to and agrees to lose earn less and sacrifice spots in big pay per view match ups etc. This is one of the major problems with wrestling and WWE today. Most guys take great satisfaction in helping making other talent, the bitching and the moaning we always hear about stems from the fact they know they are ultimately over time going to make less and live in fear of being released.

I am proud to say I have never gone to change a finish and have gladly took pride in helping put over other talent. Hell look at my pay per view record of 12-26 and you will see that has been the pattern of my career. I have always been confident in my ability and work ethic to being my best every day and ultimately always felt that by doing good it was the right thing to do. Personally seeing my money go down over the years though even though I was working as much as ever and being denied magazine covers and other projects as well as watching my role diminish no matter what I did or how hard I tried takes its toll on a human. Being told no matter how hard I work or how good I get doesn’t always pay off is something I fucking refuse to ever believe in my life. I am a creative being and to be restricted time and time again is no way to live life. There is nothing I cannot do and I know no matter what comes of this situation I am going to be just fine. It isn’t soley about money, it is about commitment. Commitment to a guy who fucking cares and who loves this more than anything in the world and wants to know that his passion his efforts and his determination to constantly improve is going to be recognized and taken care of.

WWE may very well release me, which if it is the case so be it. If we can work things out a lot needs to change as I am not living in fear and creatively cannot continue to live a life that limits me creatively. I have many other interests and passions and have been very smart with my finances over the years. I thank every WWE superstar from top to bottom for their sacrifices and for working with me. The world is an amazing place and there is more than just a WWE universe there is The Universe and I will prove one way or another over time I am the greatest big guy in the universe!

 

Never been a huge fan of The Big Guy but that's a really great writeup.

 

Great write up yeah.

 

But Punk said he was a dumbass!

 

Nice job, I think everyone can relate.

 

Damn, what a write up. He's speaking from the heart.

 

Way better than the Punk thing.

 

Love the big guy. Good for him, hope he does well on the indies

 

He, Elgin, and Cage could be fun to watch as a trios.

 

The Big Guy getting some big support...

 

Well she's fired. Girl bye

 

Forgot Cameron was on the roster, is she still doing NXT stuff?

 

I picture Ryback writing that from a fancy European chair in a nice suit with a glass of wine. Reading that without his name in it, I never would have guessed who wrote it.

I also never knew that pay was different between wins and losses. Thought it was more just contract based like, 2 years for x number of appearances for x amount of dollars.

 

It's a sad hold-over from back when the losers didn't matter. Back when all you needed was guys like Hogan or Warrior to go out and do their shtick for 10 minutes every night and you'd sell tickets (and even before that). Hard to believe it's still that way today.

Something I think Ryback misses in the second part though, is that he shares a fair amount of blame in his career's downward spiral. If he had noticeably improved, ring-wise or character wise in the years he's been working, he'd be more likely to be in that spot he talks about.

 

This is my only retort to the Ryback situation:

The reason losers won't ever get paid more is because there's always someone willing to take that paycheck. If he doesn't want to, someone else will gladly take his spot. He won't get paid more because his current position in the company is easily replaceable. Make yourself irreplaceable, and then negotiate money. It would be very easy to build up a guy like Ryback as some powerful dude, and then have him lose every time. It's not that original.

I get that he's frustrated with his spot, but I haven't seen any drastic changes to his character or ring style in an attempt to get himself over. I feel for the guy, but I just feel that there's more that he can do on his part. Hell, look at Zack Ryder. Talk about someone trying to reinvent the wheel time after time again.

 

Part of it might be Vince though. Vince has always loved monster big guys so he may be more uptight about what he would allow Ryback to do compared to "smaller" guys like Ryder or whoever.

Maybe the only other option would be fucking Funkasaraus. And I mean, who would turn that great gig down?

But the move set / mic skills are definitely things Ryback could work on / fix himself.

 

Ryback also has very little leverage. I mean, if he left WWE, would we really even notice?

 

Never been much of a fan of his so I won't miss seeing him wrestle. He seems like a good guy though.

 

TNA champ, ryback!

 

Ryback almost has the same amount of PPV wins as he does number of guys he's injured being a poor worker.

 

Think she's jobbed once or twice in the last several months.

Thats the way it is, basically. Im sure there are bonuses for bigger name wrestlers...but, his point about losing money comes from 2 places. One, it means his merch doesnt move...especially in a heel role leading to WM. And two, it means he cant increase his pay to the level of the true superstars.

If you're getting a push as your contract is up, you have leverage. What leverage does Ryback have right now? Baron Corbin replaces the need for a physical heel, and Rusev is replacing his immediate storyline. WWE doesnt need him, so they dont need to pay him more. So he's playing the only card he has left.

 

I think it speaks to the kind of career Ryback has had that his best work was when he was doing dumb shit with Axel back in 2014.

Whenever he got main event pushes, whether it was with Punk or Cena, they always fell flat.