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Trump-Clinton is probably the only election in modern history that an effective third party would even be remotely able to win and its still an insanely small shot

 

I certainly wouldn't say "mathematically impossible" to expect anything other than a Trump or Clinton victory. Its just very unlikely. However, especially if this email scandal results in charges against Clinton, I still think a moderate candidate could maybe get elected

But I don't see any scenario where someone like Stein can actually get elected in 2016.

 

bernie wouldnt be able to win as a third candidate, let alone jill stein

 

I don't think anything is going to come from the email scandal

 

Ross Perot had almost 19% of the votes in 1992

 

someone should start keeping a tally of how many times this conversation happens before November

 

It's the album ranking conversation of the politics thread. But still, it's good to talk.

 

I needed this, badly. This election is going to make me pop a vein from stress, I swear.

 

Re: voting third party, what about the 5% rule? Does that still stand?

However, a “minor party” is a party whose previous candidate received “5 percent or more but less than 25 percent.” And guess what? Minor parties are eligible for general election funds too, in direct proportion to how far above 5% they get.

 

How the mighty have fallen

 

Voting on principle for a guaranteed loser is being naive.

 

He also had a lot more financial support. He basically had Donald Trump money but wasn't a complete tire fire of a human.

 

I won't shut up about the futility of voting for principles over practicality. Until July. I start a new job then and won't be able to troll. Sorry guys :(.

lol. nailed it.

 

May Day tmrw


A short history of May Day
The Contest for Memory: Haymarket Through A Revisionist Looking Glass | The Anarchist Library
A Fury For Justice: Lucy Parsons And The Revolutionary Anarchist Movement in Chicago | The Anarchist Library

 

The Haymarket frame-up and the origins of May Day

Gonna be soooooooooo sick when liberals talk about how cool may day is lmao

 

This is what an official Hillary for America “Woman Card” gets you Honestly this is both cringe worthy and funny

 

I agree. Women earning less than men, paying more for healthcare, having men legislate what they can do with their own bodies... and then having people claim that all their accomplishments are solely because of their gender... all of that is fucking hilarious /s

 

I was laughing at the fact that she is actually giving out a physical woman card, can't tell if you understand that or not.

 

I mean given you've a) said multiple times that you think "every thing Hilary is a lie" and b) called it "cringe worthy" as well, seemed pretty clear to me that you meant funny in terms of "look at what a complete joke this is"

 

On the contrary, I think this idea of lesser-evilism is both narrow and shortsighted. As I argued before, the Muslim-American community will be in danger, so long as the war on terror continues. We know Hillary is a hawk, so we can count on continued violence against Muslims abroad, which translates to racialized violence at home. The racial ideology on which imperialism rests makes no distinction among ethnic groups, borders or anything of that nature; that is, there is only a homogenous Muslim population that needs to be subjugated. A Palestinian civilian is the same as an Isis fighter and that will justify support for Israel's genocidal aims, just as people from the region who live in western nations are understood as "enemies" within, as people whose existence is problematic and are subject to violence. The difference between the threat of Trump, then, and that of Hillary is overt racist assaults on communities and the nuanced structural forms of violence that go unseen, but are acutely felt, within those affected communities. Far from being an argument of saying that one is worse or better, or flattening the difference between candidates, my contention is that each agree on underlying assumptions of a racialized logic that expresses itself in different forms. The threat to your community, then, is structural, and a part of a broader fabric of oppressive power relations that make up our sociopolitical system. Obviously, the revolution isn't going to occur tomorrow, but our understanding of the forces that constitute our world must inform our choices of political projects we support and contribute energy to. It cannot be isolated, it has to be intersectional and global. The reason it has to be is directly related to our responsibilities to one another; if I, for example, I support Hillary, then my sisters of color will suffer under the policies of white feminism that doesn't take the concerns of women of color into consideration, and that includes those from your communities whose concerns have less to do with how many female ceo's there are and more to do with living under constant surveillance. One might say, well, it will be worse under Trump, but that misses the point: yes, Trump is a racist we must fight, but the Trump phenomena did not come into being in a vacuum; rather, he is the product of political processes that liberalism and the Democratic Party actively fostered, so why we would rely on them to be an answer to what he represents?

 

Speaking about how the lesser evil argument enables terrible, death-ridden politics, Obama proposed a forty billion dollar military package for Israel. I guess, if it were a republican, it could have been fifty billion, so in that regard it is objectively lesser money to be used for the evil of oppressing Palestinians:

DN!

 

Today Is Our Day | Jacobin

 

Sounds like Wilmore was amazing last night.