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Representation in Art/Entertainment/Media • Page 41

Discussion in 'Entertainment Forum' started by Tim, Mar 8, 2016.

  1. armistice

    Captain Vietnam: Bestower of Tumors

    lol. listen. 1) yes, i did and ^this shit is condescending as fuck. and 2) if you wanna hop over into the MENA pol thread and keep this going we can, but i guarantee you the discussion will devolve into a discussion about western imperialism and you are on the wrong side of it rn.
     
  2. 1) Then why did your entire post attack someone that shared an article and not the article or author?, 2) I don't have a "side", I posted a popular article arguing some issues with 'Aladdin' as a story/and movie, argued by multiple non-westerners. If you wanna talk about what the article is about, by all means I'll read, that's the point of this thread. But posts attacking the person that shared it or expressly ignoring the contents to attack the author or source are not that.
     
  3. aranea

    Trusted Prestigious

    Probably because I already talked about the article and author.

    It matters because you're defending sharing a tweet by a MENA equivalent of someone like Spencer or Duke. Own up to that and apologize. It's a really bad look.

    This is why Westerners need to read up on MENA history, diversity, and culture, and the past thirty years of Western foreign policy. Because most of you haven't, you're following people who are sympathizing with imperialism and thus often islamism, and you have no idea because you don't understand the language.

    If you cared, you wouldn't ignore that Massoud is not Arab, and that it matters that he's a Copt.

    Also I come from a non Western family so like.

    Who are these "respected people", I honestly want to know because it matters a lot. Seriously. The people who are "respected" in the West usually are so because of how ignorant most people left of center are about MENA. And people wonder why the right wing are winning. A lot of the popular and "respected" people are usually ignorant and/or racist.

    I say this because the article predicates on a false assumption about the actor's race and is written by someone who is ignorant and has said very harmful things. I explained in my previous post that wasn't addressed.

    You have zero idea how offensive this is because you're very ignorant.

    This is why people can't brush me off for being "annoying/hostile" about these discussions. You're not educated on them and you're not willing to admit it. It shows in the fact you can't address most of the things that are said about it.
     
  4. iCarly Rae Jepsen

    run away with me Platinum

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  5. iCarly Rae Jepsen

    run away with me Platinum

     
  6. iCarly Rae Jepsen

    run away with me Platinum

  7. youll be fine

    Trusted Supporter

  8. Morrissey

    Trusted

    When that new American Pie came out, she was paid less than every other actor from the original movie. She is in a position where she has to take what they give.
     
  9. [removed]

    Trusted Prestigious

    Part of me thinks that pay difference is because it's Tara Reid but I still call Kangaroo court.
     
  10. Kiana

    Goddamn, man child Prestigious

    Tara Reid def has the name recognition for me and imo should be paid higher than him (I don't even think I know what else the other guy has been in?) but unfort for her she has the hasbeen label and I'm sure they take advantage of the fact that she doesn't really have any power to demand more. She has to take what she can get. But it's silly cause he's just as replaceable.
     
  11. AndrewSoup

    It's A Secret To Everyone Prestigious

    white folks caping for HBO/Benioff+Weiss' "Confederate" and equating any criticism of it to """censorship""" is just fucking ridiculous
    this bullshit right here annoys me so much because you know this exact argument is coming from self-professed "liberals"
     
  12. BirdPerson

    fuck tammy! Prestigious

    Ian Ziering? Steve Sanders. Beverly Hills, 90210. But also I'm probably outside the target market for these things now.

    Edit: that's not me saying he should be paid more, just that there is name recognition
     
  13. iCarly Rae Jepsen

    run away with me Platinum

     
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  14. Kiana

    Goddamn, man child Prestigious

    Huh. I know a lot of the Beverly hills actors by name but this dudes name has never made it into my pop culture sphere! I did recognize him when I googled it tho
     
  15. BirdPerson

    fuck tammy! Prestigious

    In fairness, he's no Luke Perry :D

    Hmm, I wonder what Luke Perry is doing these days.
     
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  16. iCarly Rae Jepsen

    run away with me Platinum

    he's the dad on Riverdale and let me just say Cher was right to save herself for him
     
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  17. iCarly Rae Jepsen

    run away with me Platinum

  18. iCarly Rae Jepsen

    run away with me Platinum

     
  19. Tim

    grateful all the fucking time Supporter

     
  20. ugman_2000

    Trusted Prestigious

    Ed's now stepped down from the role, hopefully they won't fuck up the casting this time.

     
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  21. Future ScarJos and Tildas and Emma Stones better pay attention
     
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  22. Random thought: I like how fanboys are like "lol silly snowflake" whenever there's whitewashing, but whenever we suggest that Doctor Strange and Iron Fist should be Asian they're like "But the comics!!!"

    See also: "But The Doctor has always been a man!" "But Peter Parker has always been white!"
     
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  23. Malatesta

    i may get better but we won't ever get well Prestigious

    pretty good statement, glad he gets it
     
  24. domotime2

    Great Googly Moogly Supporter

    And for a guy that unknown to be able to say "no" to a role... not too shabby
     
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  25. What It’s Like to Make Your First Movie With an All-Female Crew
    There is a sequence near the end of Band Aid, the Sundance standout that hits theaters Friday, which could function as a sort of manifesto for the film’s writer-director-producer-star Zoe Lister-Jones. The story of a couple who can’t stop fighting and so, as a sort of Hail Mary, decide to turn their fights into songs, Band Aid eventually finds Lister-Jones’s character, Anna — spoiler alert! — at an impasse. In response to her dilemma, Anna puts on a nice dress, does her hair and makeup, and then proceeds to beat the bejeezus out of a room filled with mattresses and pillows. It’s funny, unexpected, and surprisingly poignant, and within it, you can find a concise kernel of what makes Lister-Jones one of our most promising young directors.

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    (The movie ended up being good too.)