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Wrestling Thread [Archived] • Page 872

Discussion in 'Sports Forum' started by Henry, Jan 23, 2017.

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  1. Joe4th

    Memories are nice, but that's all they are. Prestigious

    Randy sucks and has always sucked
     
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  2. Henry

    Moderator Moderator

    Randy Orton only uses like two more moves than Dean Ambrose.
     
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  3. enlliac

    The Real Azor Ahai

    bring back randy's punt
     
  4. domotime2

    Great Googly Moogly Supporter

    i hope this finally ends the smark/IWC from blindly being all for orton and not cena.
     
  5. Shrek

    can't be made fun of Prestigious

    What alternate world have you been living in where internet marks prefer Orton to Cena?!
     
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  6. Fixed Glitch

    AP Attitude Era Superstar Supporter

    You know things have hit rock bottom when you have to lean on a "surprise" return from Khali.
     
  7. enlliac

    The Real Azor Ahai

    I think that's been over for a couple of years......
     
  8. amorningofsleep

    No Fun. Not Ever.

    Granted, I've only been a returned watcher for two years, but the only cool thing I have seen Randy do is that RKO at WM31. And that was LITERALLY the first time I ever saw him wrestle.
     
  9. Henry

    Moderator Moderator

    I wish WWE had more of an open mind when it came to match building. If it isn't some grandiose match between AJ and Seth, we almost always get these cookie cutter matches in main events. Guys like Dean and Randy can put together the same exact matches for years on end and are praised for it. Even when Roman isn't going against a strong worker, you see the same shit from him every single time. I realize this is pretty deliberate, but guys like AJ are getting over on so much more than that. I think more hardcore fans are going to be akin to letting guys do what they're best at rather than the same shit over and over. It took all of this new blood (I'll say back to Punk) to get it out of Cena. He's spent years giving us the same shit, but when he sets up matches with guys that can go, we get gold.

    tldr: let wrestlers wrestle. fuck Dean and Randy.
     
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  10. domotime2

    Great Googly Moogly Supporter

    ehhh i dont know about that. Anytime Orton returns he comes out to a pretty big pop, only to fall back down to 'eh' territory. And i mean, the cena hate? That's only recently gone away (thank you Roman Reigns).
     
  11. Henry

    Moderator Moderator

    That might have been my first time seeing him wrestle as well. At least it is the first time I can remember.
     
  12. Shrek

    can't be made fun of Prestigious

    Cena has been pretty well loved since the US title open challenge which was two and a half years ago
     
  13. Shrek

    can't be made fun of Prestigious

    Orton has had flashes of greatness. The feud with Christian was amazing. Most recently his short stay in the Wyatt Family. He usually sucks but he is sometimes fantastic.
     
  14. enlliac

    The Real Azor Ahai

    People chanting Cena sucks or singing John Cena sucks along to his music is basically the Kurt Angle you suck treatment
     
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  15. Henry

    Moderator Moderator

    lol someone on reddit wrote up what I was saying last night.

    During the Cena vs. Rusev match, the WWE violated many rules of the US Flag code.

    Here is a link to the rules of the US Flag Code.

    Some of the violations committed include the following:

    1. The flag should never be drawn back or bunched up in any way.
    2. The flag should never be fastened, displayed, used, or stored in such a manner as to permit it to be easily torn, soiled, or damaged in any way.
    3. The flag should never be stepped on.
    4. The flag should never touch anything beneath it (The biggest violation if you ask me).
    I can understand the likes of Rusev, a Bulgarian upset with the US, to commit such acts of violation, however a great American such as John Cena himself should be held to a higher standard. How could he let this happen?
     
  16. enlliac

    The Real Azor Ahai

    Orton when motivated is great. The problem is getting him to be motivated
     
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  17. domotime2

    Great Googly Moogly Supporter

    well yeah, because he's been kept away from the main event... i could argue the lesnar beat down really helped.

    - Not in the main event
    - humble lesnar beat down
    - Roman reigns

    i think have all contributed to the IWC relaxing on Cena. Perhaps I'm more referring to Cena still getting booed and the cena sucks chant (although at this point, it might be more endearing and on the same levl as "you suck" kurt angle)
     
  18. Joe4th

    Memories are nice, but that's all they are. Prestigious

    Orton isn't over, his finisher is what is over
     
  19. Shrek

    can't be made fun of Prestigious

    And how random his motivations seem. WWE title win at the biggest Wrestlemania of all time? Meh, house show mode. Match number three in a Christian feud that no one cared about in the summer on Smackdown? I will sacrifice my body for a match of the year candidate!
     
  20. Henry

    Moderator Moderator

    Cutters are terrible finishers, especially when used to catch someone mid-move. No idea how it implies damage in any way.
     
  21. domotime2

    Great Googly Moogly Supporter

    i dont fully blame orton though. he's been in the company for 15 years...he's literally done it all and is still relatively young. he's a good example of what happens when you push a real young guy to the moon in his first few years. Eventually he's going to grow unmotivated and there's not much else we can do with the guy.


    Now with that said.. Orton has been hamstrung with Bray Wyatt and Jinder Mahal and a lot of Sheamus in the past 6 years so even with my theory, he's been crippled with some pretty shitty feuds.

    Orton vs AJ or Orton vs Owens could've been great.
     
  22. Shrek

    can't be made fun of Prestigious

    Henry what is wrong with your takes lately
     
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  23. Hahah this is a great line

    "The Fashion Files segments should just be the shows. And for real, Mike and Maria Kanellis are married in real life and aren’t as convincing a romance as Tyler Breeze and Fandango."
     
  24. Oddpac87

    Trusted Prestigious

    Wait, what? There are a lot of fake looking wrestling moves, but I don't think the one where you grab someone by the neck and force them to the ground against their will is one of them.
     
  25. Henry

    Moderator Moderator

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