Manchester Orchestra - A Black Mile to the Surface (July 28, 2017) Album • Page 75

You said victims of abuse are believed. They aren't. That's on you to fix.

 

You're the one embarrassing yourself and your profession over and over again.

 

In my experience they have been. I would not like to speak outside of my experience with the legal system.

 

Okay, this wasn’t the forum for arguing about this and I apologize for starting a rage war in here. I’ll stop.

 

Then don't. Your shitty anecdote being declared as "99%" is on you for your shitty post that said it and plays into this red pill bullshit.

 

Yeah that was my own hyperbole. I’ll own that.

 

years of law experience tho

 

I believe what he meant to say was 99% of the times victims aren't believed which is why most of the time they are too horrified to come forward because they know they will be either brushed off or accused of having ulterior motives

Calm down guys it was a simple mistype

 

Yeah that was my own hyperbole. I’ll own up to that because I did a shitty job of explaining it. I said 99% even though it is not that high because of the lower threshold of probable cause to arrest someone People walk free because of the “beyond a reasonable doubt” threshold that is (and should be) very high if it proceeds to trial. If there is an allegation made of domestic battery there will almost certainly be an arrest. Oftentimes people don’t want to fight it because they fear that a jury will convict them. Innocent or not. That’s what I was talking about.

Okay now i’m done. Didn’t mean to offend anyone here.

 

I wasn’t talking about rape at all. There is a terrible stigma around people coming forward and being in the public eye when they accuse of another of rape. It comes to the point where some don’t want to come forward. I hate it and I wish more victims would come forward. But I was talking about something else entirely.

 

If you guys we’re hung up on the “alleged victims” that’s because I’ve had ingrained the whole notion of innocent until proven guilty. Not saying they’re false reports.

 

Nope. Often the woman will be harassed by the cops and not believed by them, the judge, the jury, her own lawyers, and her own friends and family. And often they die because of it.

 

That's not what he meant at all. He's clarified his wrong position multiple times now.

 

English Police Apologize to a Woman Who Reported Her Stalker 125 Times Before He Stabbed Her

This was fucking last week. God damn I'm just gonna keep getting angry.

 

Judge Berates Domestic Violence Victim—and Then Sends Her to Jail

 

Judge admits his decision in domestic-abuse case had ‘the most tragic result possible’

 

I guess life really is A Black Mile to the Surface.

 

Nowhere to Go: Domestic Violence Victims Say Police Enable the Aggressor or Don't Believe Them

 

http://msmagazine.com/blog/2015/10/26/police-wife-the-secret-epidemic-of-police-domestic-violence/

 

Police treatment of domestic abuse victims to be investigated

 

This shit matters more than this album. Period.

 

Why does this have to be posted in this thread. Make a separate one if you want to discuss. The abuse has nothing to do with THIS BAND. It's a big deal yes.

 

^^^

My wife's ex is absolutely insane, and it took her months and months, and multiple court appearances for her to get a restraining order. She needed to give an immense amount of proof, and even still some of that was questioned.

 

Fuck off

 

haven't checked in for awhile, just found a new band called surfer blood, and hey, they sound great. I'm sure everyone's pumped! Time to take a big sip of coffee and head over to the message boar--