Deftones/Rise Against Summer Tour Tour • Page 8

That Rise Against setlist is brutally bad

 

For reference, here is what RA was playing not even two weeks ago on headlining gigs: Rise Against Setlist at The Garage, London

One song from the first record, two from the second, three from the third, and plenty of hits to appease casual fans. Basically perfect. 12 songs on a headliner for a band with eight full lengths is pretty much impossible to defend imo.

 

That's extreme hyperbole. A set with The Good Left Undone, Re-Education, Satellite, Give it all, Survive, Prayer or the Refugee and Savior cannot be "brutally bad". Those are all great songs.

 

Great songs that everyone has heard at pretty much any Rise set in the last 5 years. For a band with songs that are 4 minutes or less, other than the unnecessary "jam" they throw on Savior, that set is really awful for a headliner.

 

Oh really? Then explain how a band with 8 full length albums can get away with only a 12/13 song setlist...not to mention NOTHING from their first two releases? And no "Swing Life Away"? Come on, man..

 

Eh...... I would personally would replace People Live Here, Help is on the way with some older ones and maybe switch out the new songs with other new songs. Other than that, you can't really take away the hits, it's what people want to hear.

 

I don't think they need to take away anything, I just think they should play more than 60 minutes of music on an amphitheater headliner.

 

What? Why is the 12 song set the band's fault? I assume them and Deftones get the same time as a co headliner tour? The real question is with the 13 songs they have time for, what would you take away since they have so many hits people want to hear?

 

When I go see Rise Against, I'm not going for "their hits" because I know they've got so much better songs than the ones chosen by their label. And I guarantee you the majority of the posters in this thread will back me up on that. And why is the 12 song set list the band's fault? BECAUSE THEY MADE IT lol

 

I concur. As much as I love Silhouette, Of Dust and Nations, and The Earth Will Shake, play something else from those freaking albums. All That's Left, The Abolition of Man, Music Box, and Stand and Feel Your Worth should get some love.

 

Not trying to defend the setlists because they aren't great, but if you're going to a co-headlining summer amphitheater tour, you shouldn't expect a bunch of deep cuts on the setlist. This tour is marketed at the masses, so they're playing the hits. Hardcore fans should go see the band when they do a proper headlining tour.

 

I beg to differ, has anyone seen that Deftones setlist?

 

I don't really care about the content of the setlist, my bone to pick is with the length.

 

Not trying to be rude to Rise Against fans but (deftones fans in here) is this show worth getting through Rise Against's set to see?

 

Well yeah, I'd love to hear songs like Worth Dying For and Dancing for Rain, but I get why with 13 songs they are playing what they are playing.

For the set length, what I meant by that is that I don't think the band is in control of that. As a co headliner I would think both bands got that amount of time.

On just a Rise headliner tour, they usually play the standard 18 songs or so. I just thought them doing a co headline was each band cut their sets back a bit.....

Yeah, last time they did a opening tour slot for RA they opened with Blood Clots and played Firebreather/Messenger back to back

Their set is really good I must admit. Love the opener and closer for sure.

 

It's a great set, but it's got the hits in it too...

My Own Summer
Back to School
Change
Be Quiet
Rocket Skates
Digital Bath

It's still meant to appeal to a mainstream crowd. So that fans of either band will still be familiar with the others bands' set.

If you look at summer co-headlining ampitheater tours, the setlist for both bands is pretty typical. I agree that Rise Against could have mixed it up a little more, and if they're closing the show they should play more than 12 songs, but it's not really that crazy of a song selection for them in this situation.

 

My issue with the set wasn't the song selection but the length. The end of the Chicago show was just odd. Tim didn't say anything about the show being over and then they just started playing Savior....and then nothing. Everyone was standing around waiting for an encore but the lights came on. It was very reminiscent of their set at Riot Fest in 2014 when they played like 10 songs.

 

I flew out from New Jersey to see them at riot fest and was beyond disappointed at their set

As disappointed as I am in this setlist I also can't be too mad because I saw them in Brooklyn a few weeks ago in a tiny venue where they played all deep cuts and didn't play like half of their hits. It was great.

 

I traveled from NY for that same Riot Fest, and was also massively disappointed lol

 

It is strange for the closing act to not have such an anti-climatic closing and to play (what seems like) a shorter set than the co-headliner.

 

Never underestimate how much time Rise is capable of wasting by adding in a bunch of noise to the end of Savior. It goes for around ten minutes sometimes and it's like my least favorite thing any live band does regularly lol

 

I'm bummed that I can't use my tickets for the Raleigh show of this tour since moving, but after seeing that all the setlists are pretty short I don't think I'll make the effort to travel to SLC to see this. Especially bummed out by that Thrice set. I know they are just support but that set is soooo short with the same old stuff

 

I don't think I've heard it live before, or if I have, I don't particularly remember it, but I can't stand it when bands do stuff like that, especially when they have a limited amount of time to play their set.

I remember bands at Warped Tour and Ozzfest that would have like a 20 minute set and then spend half the time talking or "expanding" a song.

 

Thrice set is the biggest bummer of it all, considering they're the best band on this tour (and I'm a huge Deftones fan)

 

I'd throw Green Day doing King For A Day/Shout/whatever-else-nonsense in to the mix for consideration. Fall Out Boy insisting on covering Beat It at every show would've made the cut if they didn't finally stop playing it last summer.