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The Starting Line Band • Page 6

Discussion in 'Music Forum' started by Melody Bot, Jan 9, 2016.

  1. parkerxcore

    Somebody's gonna miss us Supporter

    I genuinely believe the reason why Cartel's success plateaued is because their live show was so absolutely boring.
     
  2. Or because their second album flopped?
     
  3. Larry David

    I'll see you again in 25 years Prestigious

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  4. S/T would have alienated some fans regardless, but without the Band In The Bubble backfire they'd have been able to sustain themselves. Lots of people disregarded the record entirely based on that alone.
     
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  5. This is so weird. S/T is one of my favorite pop rock albums of all time. It isn't that different from their other material. Maybe it came out too early or people were less open minded than today ? I didn't know the band at the time so I never watched that Bubble show, was it that negative for Cartel ?
     
  6. Larry David

    I'll see you again in 25 years Prestigious

    I'd say it was negative in the sense that they had to rush a writing process, and made a record that's nowhere near Chroma quality.
     
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  7. bobby_runs

    where would i be if i was my brain Prestigious

    It really wasn't that rushed. They already had the album done. Just had to do a bunch of stuff for tv.
     
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  8. Larry David

    I'll see you again in 25 years Prestigious

    Yikes. Not sure what their excuse is in that case.
     
  9. TSLROCKS

    Trusted Supporter

    I love the S/T from Cartel lol

    Just really unfortunate how that turned out for them
     
  10. cwhit

    still emperor emo Prestigious

    they played say anything else at the emo night i got convinced to go to on friday. hadn't heard that song in years. still bangs
     
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  11. cwhit

    still emperor emo Prestigious

    also by the time the second album came out and didn't do well the mid 2000s pop rock stuff was already falling away from mainstream radio prevalence, and the neon pop rock fearless records stuff got bigger (though not quite pop radio big)
     
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  12. The bubble thing totally killed their momentum because a bunch of impressionable teens and twenty somethings actually believed that Cartel wrote and recorded that record in like a week or whatever lol. The record wasn't Chroma part 2, so they were gonna receive backlash either way, but the criticism certainly wouldn't have been as harsh if not for the show.

    Of course I'm biased in this myself because I love S/T haha
     
  13. irthesteve

    formerly irthesteve Prestigious

    I truly think that Cartel's self-titled album sucks, bubble or not. I appreciate their attempt to try new things and new styles, but I think it was a failure and 80% of the songs are bad
     
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  14. Elder Lightning

    With metal in my bones and punk in my heart Supporter

    "Lose It" is still a top 5 Cartel song:

     
  15. irthesteve

    formerly irthesteve Prestigious

    Completely disagree, hate that song. From that album I'd probably only keep The Best, Wasted and maybe The Fortunate
     
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  16. Larry David

    I'll see you again in 25 years Prestigious

    There's five songs (maybe more) on Chroma better than it! ;-)
     
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  17. irthesteve

    formerly irthesteve Prestigious

    There's quite literally 12 songs on Chroma better than Lose It
     
  18. I Will Hide Myself Away and Georgia though
     
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  19. irthesteve

    formerly irthesteve Prestigious

    pass. Maybe I like Georgia though, I can't think of that one by name
     
  20. Elder Lightning

    With metal in my bones and punk in my heart Supporter

     
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  21. TSLROCKS

    Trusted Supporter

    now I'm in the mood to listen to some S/T Cartel
     
  22. Leftandleaving

    I will be okay. everything Supporter

    This is the best song mentioned in this thread and tsl and cartel are some of my favorite bands
     
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  23. Elder Lightning

    With metal in my bones and punk in my heart Supporter

    Haha, I couldn't remember what Cartel's "Georgia" sounded like, this was all I could think of.
     
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  24. Larry David

    I'll see you again in 25 years Prestigious

    Haha I agree. I was just using 5 as an example because they said it was a top 5 song
     
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  25. I don't see what makes Chroma stand out among the pop punk albums that were coming out at the time. I like it more now but they become way better as songwriters over the following years.