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Discussion in 'Politics Forum' started by aranea, May 19, 2017.

  1. Philll

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    A letter template here for those in Conservative constituencies asking them to rethink DUP alliance. Long shot, but gotta keep the pressure on. Let these people know they're not safe.

    Email to Conservative MP re: DUP
     
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  2. Leftandleaving

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    It happened a lot last year in my town - unfortunately, they were all part of various republican campaigns
     
  3. David87

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    Yeah I've been invited to do some door knocking for state campaigns.
     
  4. iCarly Rae Jepsen

    run away with me Platinum

     
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  8. can't believe they took kesington and chelsea
     
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  9. aranea

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  10. DarkHotline

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    Can I join the Labour Party somehow as an American citizen?
     
  11. aranea

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    the fuck is this shit

     
  12. David87

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    Is it possible that the EU tells Britain to go fuck itself so hard that they have nothing to do but NOT Brexit?
     
  13. Philll Jun 10, 2017
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    Well, Theresa has been spouting her "No deal is better than a bad deal" hardline shit for a while, but now she's proven the magnitude of her incompetence who knows where things will end up?

    However the triggering of article 50 is, as far as I'm aware, irreversible. We're leaving no matter what.

    This about sums things up: 'Yet another own goal': EU braces for Brexit talks delay after UK election
     
  14. Letterbomb31 Jun 10, 2017
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  15. JM95

    hmmm

    I can't see this lasting long.
     
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  18. Philll

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    So say this Tory/DUP alliance falls apart, where does that leave us? Do the Conservatives limp along for five years trying to maintain control knowing they could be ganged up on any number of issues? Or do we see another election?
     
  19. Jamie Dagg

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    The former is my worry. Even though Labour's gains are great, really unless there become serious fissures in the party the Tories really have no reason to leave power. We said there'd be some divisions in the 2010 coalition that would damage the party's position, there weren't. We thought a majority of 6 seats would stop the really harmful legislation passing, it didn't. While Labour isn't in a position to legislate we're still open to however much of the conservative manifesto their coalition can stomach. And I fear that the Corbyn appeal might dissipate over the next 5 years as the shine from this election wears off or that he may step down at some point before 2022 given his age. Unless this government collapses, and soon, I fear there's not much way to capitalise on this favourable position.
     
  20. Philll

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    Yeah, I don't know how we keep the fires stoked til 2022. Obviously there may be further fall out over the next few days and weeks, and we have the brexit negotiations to contend with, but the Tories are a party that managed to spearhead both the leave AND remain campaigns, manage to make a hash of both of them, and then still unite afterwards. It seems a staple of the right both here and in the US, that they're able to swallow whatever bs it takes to remain in power.
     
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  21. awakeohsleeper

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    I'll tell you what's annoyed me - May's arrogance yesterday. More of the same with her spouting her slogans. Certainty, certainty, certainty.

    No, what we needed and need is humility. You messed up, you haven't got a leg to stand on. Stop with your Brexit crap and say "right, I've messed this up and now to get a good deal for the UK, I'm going to bring Corbyn and other key people into my Brexit room and on that issue we're going to work together to get that deal".

    Instead we get more of the "this is what people voted for, let's get to work." Yes, overall we did vote for it. I'm ok with that. But let's work together so that the other 48% have something to support so that it works for the country.

    Sorry, a rant.

    She pisses me off and I don't get pissed off easily.
     
  22. Letterbomb31 Jun 10, 2017
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    There's no way the Tories will cling on to power until 2022. I bet there will be another election before the end of the year. Labour made great gains in this election, but not only that, they turned a ton of Tory safe seats into marginals. By getting into bed with the DUP, May is making her own party toxic to even larger swathes of the electorate, as well as to many of her own socially liberal MPs. The Tories are going to rip themselves apart over the next few months. As long as Labour continue to offer a distinct alternative, I think there's a huge chance they'll win the next election. Corbyn got 40% after two years of infighting, sabotage and a highly aggressive media. Imagine what he could achieve in an election in 6 months time if the majority of his party unites behind him. I've read that on a constituency level the party machine fought a very defensive campaign, so if they go on the offensive next time anything is possible.

    Also, Corbyn will be 73 in 2022 but Trump was 70 when he got elected and Bernie Sanders was 74 when he was running for the Democratic nomination. Corbyn's age isn't a problem as long he's up for it, although I seriously doubt the next election is that far off anyway.

    This is worth reading as well:
     
  23. Letterbomb31 Jun 10, 2017
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    May will now more than likely be able to stay on as leader which is good news for Labour as I think she will continue to lose support for the Tories. She is an utterly incompetent politician.
     
  24. JM95

    hmmm

    And now all she's done is let her advisors take the blame. It's absolutely pathetic leadership.
     
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  25. JM95

    hmmm

     
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