X-Men: Apocalypse (Bryan Singer, May 27, 2016) Movie • Page 13

Is there no :lightning: :lightning: :lightning: ??

 

Not that I know of, unfortunately

 

Has no one mentioned the scene of Angel drinking and listening to Metallica's Four Horsemen? A little on the nose with the reference, but I still loved it.

 

Terrible scene, but I was so down with listening to that song in the theater, lol.

 

That character was a different person from the guy in The Last Stand right? I mean obviously it would have to be, but they didn't reuse a character and turn him into someone else entirely, right?

Also I find it weird that Oscar Isaac wanted four extremely powerful mutants to be his henchmen but they settled for an angsty teen with wings

 

Angel is a classic four horsemen. I can't say why he is portrayed that way in the film though.

 

different actor and totally different character backstory.

 

Yeah pretty awful characterisation. With the exception of Magneto, they wasted those horsemen.

 

the worst part was when magneto saved the day by slinging a giant metal X between x men and apocalypse.

 

Rose McGowan Calls Out Fox for “Offensive” and “Stupid” X-Men: Apocalypse Poster

We had a similar conversation here about a promoted tweet with a gif of this scene. How did they use that scene without context in so much promotion without anyone say, "Hey, maybe this isn't the image to use?"

 

That was far from the worst part imo

 

The worst part of this movie was having seen it.

 

Some people did say that but it was not the majority and most of them just said it on places like chorus.fm and Twitter (without @anyonewho workedwiththemovie), not places where Fox producers will see it.

The producers can't know it's offensive if the people it offends do not bother telling them.

 

Agreed. I got hit with a warning because I said it in a disrespectful way on here, but the my point was the fact that they are blue superheroes makes a huge disconnect for most people from spousal abuse. It's good guy vs bad guy.

Shouldn't the parent in the story teach the daughter the difference between superheroes vs villians in a piece of fiction instead of relating it to real life?

 

I believe they're talking about the internal marketing team questioning the use of the image, not the public

 

It might have never crossed their mind. It didn't cross the minds of a lot of people. I have only seen two actual articles about it online.

Maybe someone can bring it to their attention and next time they will test their promotional photos among different groups and see what the reactions will be. That's probably what all studios should do.

 

They should've known it was a bad choice

 

X-Men: Fox Apologizes For Controversial Apocalypse Banners

 

Social media response led to a celebrity sharing it, which led to more online response, which led to them realizing they did something wrong and slapping together an apology. So, yeah, responding online did work. Though, if you have the actual names of the people who made this decision and how to effectively reach them (which, again, online backlash accomplished, but whatever), then cool; I'm sure a lot of people would love to know that information so they can relate their feelings and experiences more directly.

And, my goodness, if of all the people that had to take part in those marketing decisions, none of them were able to realize that a powerful man choking a naked woman (without context) is a terrible image to plaster everywhere, regardless of if its clearly in a fictional context... I don't even know. Like, come on. It's really not that hard to understand the concept of "triggering" and take it seriously, and then avoid something that freaking egregious.

 

Are you a woman who has been assaulted? No? Then please don't say what's "a huge disconnect."

 

A lot of people outside of the internet, especially among 40 - 50 year olds who would be the ones pulling the strings at Fox, most likely do not even know what "triggering" is. And yes, an article did get the attention of people but it took about a month after the first online complaint for Fox to even be noticed about it. Sometimes the internet makes things appear to seem larger than they really are. You can't expect everyone to be as alert as you because you go to a few websites that have the same mentality. It's the false-consensus effect.[1]. I would go to this site, IMDB message boards, comicbookmovie, etc. everyday for the few weeks leading up to the film. You can guess which site was the only one where the people even mentioned the reaction to the poster before a celebrity posted about it a few days ago. Fox fixed their mistake, it was an accident, people need to stop condemning them for something that was unintentional.

[1] In psychology, the false-consensus effect or false-consensus bias is an attributional type of cognitive bias whereby people tend to overestimate the extent to which their opinions, beliefs, preferences, values, and habits are normal and typical of those of others (i.e., that others also think the same way that they do).

 

This might be the first time I've seen someone include a footnote like that, lol. I have Google and a brain, you know.

And, I'm not sure what you don't understand. I know that not everyone thinks the same way. I also know that, objectively, online backlash was the first step in getting Fox's attention. I also would hope that reacting negatively to images like that isn't a fringe mentality; I guess I just hate accepting that mankind is garbage.

 

Lol, I know, but I saved you from going to google.

Humanity tends to be more ignorant than garbage. People just need to be aware but sometimes people do not become aware as quickly as preferred. The fact that Fox didn't try to give an excuse to keep the billboards up and apologized once it came to their attention is a pretty positive thing, IMO.

 

Hoo boy this was rough. I could not stifle a laugh at:

"What are you doing?!?"
"Lllleeeeaaaarning"

 

I know I shouldn't be asking questions of this series at this point because very little of it makes any sense, but I guess I'm curious about what happened to Logan between the end of DOFP and this? Mystique had taken on the guise of Stryker at the end of the last one and fished Logan out of the river. That gave me the impression Logan's personal future had also been altered, but I guess the real Stryker wound up with him anyway? Is that Mystique's fault? I don't know why this is the one thing that's really bothering me right now, but it is. Anyone?