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Vein.fm - This World Is Going To Ruin You (March 4, 2022) Album • Page 11

Discussion in 'Music Forum' started by trevorshmevor, Jan 4, 2022.

  1. trevorshmevor Mar 4, 2022
    (Last edited: Mar 4, 2022)
    This situation sucks. Not saying it’s right to carry heat to a show but I do understand the need for touring musicians & crew to be protected (dunno if a gun is the way but it’s the reality here) - as much as we’ve normalized it there’s really nothing safe about getting in a van with 4-5 people and driving across the country for like a month or whatever. And if there’s any time to flash it, being verbally threatened with one seems like the time. Thankful the dude kept cool enough to not use it, but the fact that it got to that point alone shows severe irresponsibility on both sides. It’s sketchy stuff and leaves a bad taste in my mouth

    But jumping a teen/hitting a woman? Can’t give that a “shit happens” pass. Need to hear Koyo and Vein speak up on this one to see where they stand. If that stuff is true and they remain silent or back it then I do not fuck with them
     
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  2. atlas

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    again, if you're expecting them to give a statement over speculation from locals they were beefing with then I have a bridge to sell you

    If someone comes forward and personally says “I was harmed by this band” that’s obviously completely fucked but if it’s exclusively local third parties who are willing to exaggerate about the band “destroying equipment” (see: a mic stand that dude can be heard on camera saying that he would reimburse them for) it’s not unreasonable to me to think that they would exaggerate other shit to make them look bad. If it makes me a horrible person to think that then whatever. Pretty clear either way that this was instigated and escalated by toxic macho stupidity and grown adults just not acting like grown adults, which at the end of the day is just fucking lame
     
  3. flask

    Trusted Supporter

    Hitting a 17 year old girl is fucked but idk if that’s been confirmed? Otherwise we have a a mic stand broken and some parking lot beef which sounds like a Thursday night at your local DIY venue.
     
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  4. trevorshmevor Mar 4, 2022
    (Last edited: Mar 4, 2022)
    Yes I get what you’re saying but there is no world where being accused of hitting a woman/jumping teenagers or being complicit in either scenario doesn’t require some kind of acknowledgement. If they aren’t willing to provide their perspective as the artists we’re supposed to be supporting so that we can make our own decision about whether or not to support them then that’s fine and I simply will not anymore
     
  5. Blainer93

    Prestigious Supporter

    So far it Seems like there is a lot of exaggeration going on…

    Also sounds like Momentum might be the one mostly involved? Their vocalist claimed someone threatened Vein with a gun which led to the Momentum vocalist bringing his out.
     
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  6. Nate_Johnson

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    Oh boy
     
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  7. Elder Lightning

    With metal in my bones and punk in my heart Supporter

    Well fuck this band.

    Whatever happened, making light of gun violence is beyond shitty.
     
  8. Dinkleberg

    Go birds Supporter

    Fuuuuuuuuuuuuck that
     
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  9. atlas

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    yeah had never heard of them before last night but absolutely do not fuck with Momentum under any circumstances
     
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  10. Dinkleberg

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    And people in here want to talk about others over exaggerating the situation

    Fuck this shitty meathead scene to hell
     
  11. Micah511

    We reach for the longest shadow

    Lol this sounds like Momentum trying to capitalize on fucking around and finding out, no thank you to that band.
     
  12. Blainer93

    Prestigious Supporter

    Possibly the corniest thing I’ve seen a band do in some time
     
  13. Dinkleberg

    Go birds Supporter

    I would not describe promoting gun violence as corny
     
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  14. atlas

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    you can @ me you know
     
  15. Dinkleberg

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    I am truly just not interested in picking fights online with people in regard to a situation like this. Just don’t tell people they are exaggerating about a situation involving gun violence when this country continues to have a significant issue with it and doesn’t actually take any steps toward solving it
     
  16. riotspray

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    unfortunately, that shirt will sell extremely well
     
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  17. swboyd

    are we still lucky to be here? Prestigious

    This is gonna make for an interesting Axe to Grind episode in the next few weeks.
     
  18. flask

    Trusted Supporter

    Tom will say we dont know the full story so its none of his business, Patrick will yearn for the day beef was settled in the parking lot and not on twitter, and Bob will just ask everyone to chill out.
     
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  19. Nate_Johnson

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    I honestly think they will all say: meh

    Tom is NYHC dude. He has seen far worse.
     
  20. flask

    Trusted Supporter

    yeah that too
     
  21. It’s a shitty shirt - still don’t know what vein has to do with it tho
     
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  22. ItsAndrew

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    The gun situation is shitty especially for that other band who made the shirt (fuck that) but I would like to know whether Vein and Koyo actually hit a woman because that is unacceptable.
     
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  23. Nate_Johnson

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    The singer of Momentum on Reddit. I guess he is a former Navy Seal.


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  24. swboyd

    are we still lucky to be here? Prestigious

    The old no press is bad press approach
     
  25. Dinkleberg

    Go birds Supporter

    Jeremy Bolm liked this tweet for whatever that is worth. They are likely aware of the situation