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Discussion in 'Politics Forum' started by aranea, May 19, 2017.

  1. David87

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  2. Iain

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    He tried to take the front foot but shot himself in the same foot. The coalition has been woeful, so I do respect him trying to get out of it.

    The greens have been an embarrassment in power in Scotland. If they were in a job in the real world they’d have been fired. They didn’t vote in favour of no confidence in order to save their skin.

    The SNP don’t look in turmoil. Only one candidate being backed now with Kate Forbes saying she won’t run. Greens happy with him. Business as usual, another few years of poor government continue.

    Should have put this to voters.
     
  3. SamLevi11

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  4. JamesMichael

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    They all promise no tax hikes but they will be coming. I’ll be going for pro small business owner.
     
  5. AFoolsGlory

    @MattW182 Supporter

    I'm fine with tax rises if they sort our public services out.
     
  6. JamesMichael

    Software Engineer Prestigious

    I'm personally not. We've already been squeezed tightly a lot over the past few years. Any more tax rises will be crippling. Business benefits have already been slowly stripped back. I honestly don't know how very small businesses do it. Probably why a lot of businesses have gone bankrupt in the last 5 years.
     
  7. AFoolsGlory

    @MattW182 Supporter

    Fair enough, I won't pretend to know enough about small businesses to argue one way or the other. But I do know about Local Authorities and schools, having worked in them both. And they're crippled, they're on their knees. Local Authority funding in particular is completely fucked and not fit for purpose - if tax rises went towards sorting that out, it would be a massive help. Obviously hugely linked to reforming social care as well. But the benefit of sorting that, the support and capacity it would provide to every area of the economy in return, greatly outweighs the pain of tax rises, for me.
     
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  8. Thrillcollinz

    It's all hell.

    Feeling quite emotional about the exit poll (like a big dweeb). I'm conflicted about labour and how they have pandered so much to the right in this election and I know that now is going to be about holding them to account, but I cannot wait to see those wankers like Gullis, Mordaunt, Cleverly, Reece C*nting Mogg, Baker etc lose their seats.

    These last 14 years have been fucking awful.

    I'm celebrating tonight and tomorrow. Take wins when you can.
     
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  9. AFoolsGlory

    @MattW182 Supporter

    Saw the results in with a celebratory whiskey and some beer I'd been saving for a special occasion. The main aim tonight was getting rid of the shower of shite - mission accomplished. 14 years of chaos deserve a night of celebrating their demise.
     
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  10. Thrillcollinz

    It's all hell.

    Enjoy it pal :heart:
     
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  11. Iain

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    I saw the stats guy for the channel 4 coverage call Labours win a "loveless" victory. I think the worrying thing is, he is probably right. How much of the "landslide" voted for what the labour party planned to do, or just to get out the torys/SNP? I think it could make for interesting times for Starmer as he cant sit on the fence nymore.

    From a Scottish point of view, I am happy to see the demise of SNP & Greens. This surely is a wake up call for those parties for the Scottish parliament elections in two years. They have become complacent and in some cases incompetent.

    From a local level, i emailed them all about a local issue i had and only Labour responded.
     
  12. Halitosis Jones

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    How long between election and the PM elect getting officially asked to form a government by the king? Is it usually next day?
     
  13. AFoolsGlory

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    It's happening right now. Starmer has just walked into the Palace.
     
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  14. Iain

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    I think throughout this campaign, the one that has stood out to me was Lib Dems Ed Davy's. Whilst alot of it was attention seeking stunts, he atleast brough a bit of enthusiasm and fun to what really was a dull mud slinging campaign from Labour/Tory/Reform.

    He has a video called "Ed's Story" on their party youtube page, and its actually quite a moving video. I would recommend a watch.



    I have never really paid attention too much to Lib Dems, but i'll probably keep an eye on them now as i think they are potentially on to something. Even his speech after the results was pretty impressive about building trust again and hoping they can build on this by showing they work hard for their constituents.
     
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  15. Halitosis Jones Jul 5, 2024
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    Halitosis Jones

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    What an efficient transition turnaround the parliamentary system has with shadow cabinets and whatnot. In the US we have to wait 4 whole months between the president getting elected in November and them getting sworn-in in March for them to put together an administration.
     
  16. Iain

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    I appreciate this is probably for another thread. But who is the favourite to win between Biden & Trump as the narrative seems to have moved from Trumps court cases to Biden being old
     
  17. Halitosis Jones Jul 5, 2024
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    Halitosis Jones

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    It has, Biden blew it, and it's been absolute chaos in the Democratic party since. Bleak election cycle in the US right now.
     
  18. Iain

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    Think he will continue on, or bow out?
     
  19. Halitosis Jones

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    The other day he put out a statement to his staff that he is absolutely not backing out. Apparently there is alot of pressure from donors now for him to bow out and hand the candidacy over to Kamala Harris, some even asking for their money back. He has a major Primetime interview with ABC News tonight addressing all of this, but if the reaction to that is anything like the debate I don't know how much more pressure he can take before he just gives it up.
     
  20. Halitosis Jones

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    Why does southwest England like the LibDems so much?
     
  21. JamesMichael

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  22. AFoolsGlory

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    Don't forget NIMBYs too
     
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  23. awakeohsleeper

    I do not exist.

    A few thoughts:

    Our system is so ridiculous that Labour can increase their vote by only 2% from 2019 and go from their lowest total of barely 200 to 400+.

    And as much as I detest the politics of Reform, they have the third most votes but only 4 seats compared to the LibDems.

    Nice to see the Greens get 4 seats - I think having the environment and climate crisis mentioned regularly is so important so good that they’ve managed to be strategic and move from 1 to 4.

    Final thing: highlight of the night was Truss losing. Rees-Mogg a close second.
     
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  24. Iain

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    Have to agree with you on this one. Absolutely bonkers to be third most voted party with not many seats.

    Greens - I agree with them in principle. However; in the Scottish government they have proven to be incompetent beyond belief. I find it hard to take them seriously anymore.
     
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  25. AFoolsGlory

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    I may be imagining this, but aren't the Greens and the Scottish Greens two different parties?

    Edit - according to Google, they split and became separate entities in 1990
     
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