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Tour Prediction and Speculation Thread [ARCHIVED] Tour • Page 346

Discussion in 'Tour Forum' started by Melody Bot, Jan 9, 2016.

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  1. ADayToFall

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    massive fucking jaw drop
     
  2. OdeToTheSun

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    Whitechapel/Carnifex is the same day as Cattle Decapitation/Full Of Hell in Tampa, fuck.
     
  3. ADayToFall

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    So based on a tweet by Frankie, I think the Emmure headliner is going to be in 2018.
     
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  4. twisterman2006

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  5. michael_gatto

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    Fuck, the room Comeback Kid is playing in Philly is mad small. That should be fun. Also that mewithoutYou/Pianos show is going to be a lot of fucking fun.
     
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  6. TMS2787

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    This is cool. I can't believe that album is 15 years old. I have to assume they'll be doing that record in its entirety.
     
  7. swboyd

    are we still lucky to be here? Prestigious

    I mean. That's an easy choice for me. Full of Hell and Revocation are insane live. Plus you wouldn't have to sit through Rings of Incoherence that way.

    Fuuuuuck. And good for Slow Mass. They deserve that. Funny to see them on this when they're playing a house show here this weekend.
     
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  8. DarkestDayOfMan

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    Lmao while I agree that RoS are absolutely terrible live, Whitechapel and more importantly Carnifex absolutely destroy live.
     
  9. korey011 Aug 11, 2017
    (Last edited: Aug 11, 2017)
    korey011

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    (For anyone in NJ who knows Gamechanger World and the hardcore scene)
    (Posted by Gamechanger World on Facebook)

    BACK TO SCHOOL JAM

    To Our Hardcore and GameChangerWorld family.

    This is a story to set the record straight, we appreciate the time you take to read this.

    On Friday afternoon, GameChangerWorld welcomes Back To School Jam 2017.
    Back To School Jam 2017 returns to its "home."

    GameChangerWorld wants to educate the public on the "true" story which led to the unfolding of an event we cherished, prized and loved so much hosting. Back To School Jam. From Starland, to iPlay, to GameChangerWorld.

    The truth.

    The event was planned for GameChangerWorld on Saturday, September 9th, 2017. We worked extensively with our dear friend Greg Falchetto to build an incredible event. What transpired, is to be summed up in this post. Greg is an independent hardcore promoter who loves his scene and someone whom GameChagnerWorld will take a bullet for.

    Greg Falchetto runs, books, owns and operates Back To School Jam. Greg began booking the event early this Spring and expected to have a solid line up in place for July.
    However, an agent didn't want it to go down that simple and as history dictated. This agent, took his personal agenda and re-wrote Back To School jam, awarding State Champs the headline positions and malicously stacked his personal roster to support it. After countless hours negotiating, the agent discarded every credible hardcore and scene act who spent the past five years creating this amazing event. The agent then placed blame on the venue and leadership as to the reasoning to move it to another venue. Out of respect for Greg Falchetto and what he does for the scene, GameChangerWorld took a step back and withdrew itself from consideration.

    What we didn't anticipate, led to todays announcement. Somewhere between the offer process and the on sale process, never has an agent overstepped his boundaries and his rights as such. The agent is Brad Wiseman, who is the responsible agent for acts like The Story So Far, State Champs, Four Year Strong, Emmure and many more. Mr. Wiseman believed it was in his best interest to strong arm Greg Falchetto and Back To School Jam to reflect a line up that included only his artists, a move to Starland Ballroom supported to swing the show away from GameChangerWorld where the event originated and has seen years of success. Brad Wiseman, single handledly forced every credible hardcore and scene act away from this bill, to protect his own personal roster, and those within his companies. We believe he acted this without the knowledge or consent of his artists or managers. Brad, took a personal vendetta, for no logical reason, and turned against the same scene which supported and raised his roster. GameChangerWorld was one of the first companies to endorse Mr. Wiseman and his entrepreneurial dreams.

    Mr. Wiseman chose bully tactics, strong arm and politics within his company to force the change of venues and traditions within a successful festival. This is the fist time an agent or agency can be credited with ruining an event for personal agendas. Greg Faclhetto and Back To School jam deserved none of this. Imagine an agent trying to control or strong arm Coachella? That was the end around by Mr. Wiseman, too bad it didn't work. Brad Wiseman hasn't answered his office and cell, nor has he responded to any emails from GameChangerWorld and Greg Falchetto. Brad has chosen to hide from his accountability, artists and ethics within this tight knit industry

    Brad Wiseman and those who support him have called GameChangerWorld out, accused the venue of wrongdoing in the past and made it clear their artists were to control this line up . Mr Wiseman will no longer be allowed to submit any artist for any of our venues until a public apology is issued to Back To School Jam and GameChangerWorld. Mr, Wiseman has ignored countless emails and texts to rectify the situation and one can only hope that his artists read this and react.

    KICKED OUT OF STARLAND

    After an on sale of under 300, Starland Ballroom informed Greg and Brad that show show was to be moved or cancelled as it was "dead." Starland Ballroom and its bookers, whom Brad relied on, tossed this event to a children's amusement park called iPlay America. iPlay America, being the career killer it is known as, had only agreed to take the State Champs package as dictated by Brad Wiseman, leaving all of the traditional Back To School Jams artist without a venue or place to play. Back To School Jam was left for dead by Starland Ballroom.

    Brad protected his clients State Champs, but did he really?

    Brad had agreed due to poor sales to move his acts to the amusement park, rather then swallowing his pride and returning to GameChangerWorld, the venue that has supported him and his artists over the past 10 + years. In fact, GameChangerWorld supported and hosted State Champs in 2016 on their headline tour. We are not sure in Mr. Wiseman educated the band on this situation, of his personal or agenda or what has led to them headlining an event on Saturday, September 9th at a children's amusement park, going up directly against the festival they were forced to headline. Does any of this make sense to you, sure doesn't to us, but one agent, Brad Wiseman, felt compelled to ruin his band career in NJ while sabotaging an independent promoters incredible installation to a music sense, Back To School Jam.

    Back To School Jam 2017 is not dead. GameChangerWorld has informed Brad Wiseman and his roster of acts that they are no longer allowed to play at our venue and that Back To School Jam 2017 will PLAY - with PRIDE. GameChangerWorld, its companies and festivals are out of business with Brad Wiseman His acts will be approached as dictated by the fans thru management and at no point will Brad or his hence men have access to our venues or clientele.

    Brad Wiseman and his hence men are moving on to a children's amusement park just up the road from Back To School Jam. They are taking with them every act under Brad's roster and those artists who have shown no respect to the scene. Who would ever do this to their artists or an innocent independent promoter. Starland Ballroom and its buyers should be ashamed of themselves for supporting such conduct and as karma dictates, these artists will be part of a wonderful children's special at iPlay America. Get inside the fun State Champ fans - your going up against Back To School Jam and a scene which is far more loyal.

    GameChangerWorld faces retaliation from an agency for a stance against support un-fostered artist development. While we have zero fears of not doing business with Mr. Wiseman, the agency or its agents who support such tactics, we will continue to foster, develop and support the small artists, entrepreneurs and visionaries of our future industries.

    To the artist, managers and fans of this Mr. Wiseman's roster, we apologize for taking a stand and would hope to continue direct contact and relationships to not allow an individual to ever force such ill will against any independent promoter or company in the future. We believe the scene should stand together in a rally for change of agent due to the unbelievable measures one agent could take to ruin an event like "Back To School Jam," but the artists make that call. Any artist who condones such behavior should fall victim to the same practices its agent keeps. With that being said, any artist, agent or industry professional who sides with such maligned practices will neither be welcomed or supported within our system of family. Brad Wiseman, you need to take accountably for what you did. Plain and simple, your ego hurt a scene and its incredible leadership.

    On Friday around noon, the line up that was kicked off Back To School Jam will be performing at a children's amusement park just minutes away from our event. We would encourage all of the artists performing there to enjoy the incredible children's amusements rides and maybe take a brief moment out of their day to pose for a picture with their incredible agent in the candy shop. Then, if time permits, you can pay $50 for a meet and greet, to include unlimited rides for all those between 5 and 12 year old.

    For all of those who wish to celebrate the scene, all it stands for, re-entry and no barricade, you know where to find us.

    GameChangerWorld
    798 Route 9 South
    Freehold, NJ 07728

    Saturday, September 9th at GameChangerWorld. Doors 1pm.

    Knuckles and middle fingers in the air, one clown of an agent, isn't gonna stop our party.

    If you love our scene, support independent music and all is stands for Sept. 9th at GameChangerWorld as we welcome home Back To School Jam 2017.

    You can find Brad Wiseman on the web at the following addresss. He blocked us once the show got cancelled at Starland. He chose to move his show to a children's amusement parks where careers are lost, not gained.

    Please stand up for your local scene and support Back To School Jam 2017, one mans junk is another treasure, and we couldn't be happier.

    Thank You Brad Wiseman for showing GameChangerWorld that bottom feeders still prey on the scene.

    See you all Saturday, September 9th!
     
  10. JaytotheGee

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    Wow ^ that is a very brutal thing to post about an agent...
     
  11. twisterman2006

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    Holy shit.
     
  12. Mister Lyrical

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    I've been detached from that scene for a while, but GameChangerWorld has always seemed a little shady to me, back from its beginnings with John D (Who I think is a douchebag). If it's true that would be a real bummer, people probably know Brad better from This Time Next Year and Misser.
     
  13. OdeToTheSun

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    It was easy enough for me too. I've seen Cattle, FoH, and Revocation before and they're all sick. Carnifex I saw earlier this year on their headliner and as crazy as they were, I don't want to sit through RoS again, haha. Plus, it's a 20 min drive vs 45+ one.
     
  14. cwhit

    still emperor emo Prestigious

    wtf is that gamechanger shit, pop punk promoters are the fucking weirdest
     
  15. swboyd

    are we still lucky to be here? Prestigious

    pop punk is serious bizness. jokes aside, both sides of this conflict look goofy as hell to me.
     
  16. cwhit

    still emperor emo Prestigious

    john d just sucks in general
     
  17. Good Mourning

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    Don't know anything about gamechanger personally but Brad Wiseman has always been really shady
     
  18. Behind the Barricade

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    So where is The Movielife going to be playing? That's basically all I want to see from that lineup.
     
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  19. marsvoltamcr

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    The drummer from Like Moths To Flames had some connection to Gamechanger for a while I think. He used to promote all the shows there heavily on his personal Facebook page.
     
  20. marsvoltamcr

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    Is this the same Brad Wiseman who used to play in This Time Next Year?
     
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  21. steven2480

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    Yeppp. Sucks that Crime in stereo is associated with him. :(
     
  22. swboyd

    are we still lucky to be here? Prestigious

    The new lineup for Back to School Jam is decent though. Incendiary always brings it.

    BACK TO SCHOOL JAM 2017
    Doors: 12PM
    Show: 1PM
    $15 ADV
    $20 DOS

    Incendiary
    All Out War
    Angel Du$t
    Jesus Piece
    Microwave
    Praise
    Jukai
    Queensway
    Year of The Knife
    Westpoint
    Glory
    Jake Clarke
    Illusion
    The Fight (Not Title Fight)
     
  23. JaytotheGee

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    Microwave is so out of place lol
     
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  24. Behind the Barricade

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    Do people actually confuse Title Fight with The Fight?
     
  25. swboyd

    are we still lucky to be here? Prestigious

    I made that edit as a joke because some people on the Facebook event were talking about double takes they made when looking at the new lineup.
     
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