Thrice - To Be Everywhere Is To Be Nowhere (May 27, 2016) Album • Page 153

is it weird that I think of Beggars how you think of Major/minor?
I do agree that tbeitbn is pretty close to their best.

 

If you placed Illusion in front of Alchemy, I could (then) see this being my order. Potentially. I'm still crazy about M/m in a way that I don't think TBEITBN or any future albums have a good chance of topping, though. Okay maybe I'm more like

M/m > Vheissu > Illusion > Beggars > TBEITBN > Air/Earth > Fire/Water > Artist > Identity

Ehhhhh pretty different I suppose. This is my first time trying to place TBEITBN somewhere in the ranking.

Also I think there was a point in the past where I was placing Identity ahead of Artist

You know what, screw it, let's get real

M/m > Illusion > Vheissu > Beggars > TBEITBN > Identity > Artist > Alchemy

HATE ME

 

yes!!!! haha

 

^^^ I'm pretty sure my list is laughable to most, too. I'd also put Carry the Fire, Please Come Home, and The Water & the Blood above at least 3 Thrice records

 

I bet you already know what I think of your list lol.

 

I know all too well, my friend.

 

Top 5 Thrice songs right now are probably Circles, Hurricane, Beggars, For Miles, The Arsonist

 

I dig.

 

I made Hurricane my ringtone

 

Yeah, this album kicks ass for sure, and is definitely one of my very favorites from this year.

 

My top 5 Thrice songs

Daedalus
Disarmed
Night Diving
Stare At The Sun
Black Honey (hard to pick a favorite from TBEITBN because the album is so damn good)

 

Major Minor is my least favorite since artist.

Wake Up and as the crow flies are the only two songs I don't keep on my phone from the discography.

Dustins lyrics on Major Minor feel way too preachy.
I know he uses Theological and Christian themes a lot. But that felt like mars Hill thrice for me.

 

I completely agree.

One of my favorite thing about his songwriting was (Is? He took a more literal approach on TBEITBN) his ability to apply theological themes to relatable situations for everyone, Christians and atheists alike. The Melting Point of Wax and Daedalus being prime examples of this. But on M/M it's just too much, and I can't really relate at all. Despite this, Words in the Water is still one of my favorite songs.

I wonder what they other members really think about the lyrics on M/M.

 

Isn't there still a b-side from TBEITBN that hasn't been released?

 

I realllllllyyy wish they would've made Seneca into a full length song with vocals and all that jazz.

 

Yes

 

WTF?!?! Sorry, Steve, but this is just crazy. Dustin's solo stuff is great, but c'mon.

 

I've understood for a while that one of the reasons three of my best friends and I regard M/m as a Thrice masterpiece (if not THE Thrice masterpiece) is because we're Christians. We see eye to eye with Dustin's reformed/Protestant/Calvinist theology and loved hearing it espoused so poetically within such thematic rock songs.

However, to your last point, I did always get this slightly uncomfortable feeling (especially on "Call it in the Air" and "Listen Through Me," hands down my least favorite songs from M/m) that Kensrue was actually preaching directly to his bandmates. I'm pretty sure it's public information that Teppei's also a Christian but the Breckenbro's are atheists. In some of M/m's lyrics, it really appears to me that Dustin is making a plea for his bandmates to believe, urging them to see Christ. I'm not against that, but there is an uncomfortable angle to it--even for me as a Christian.

 

I honestly think all of Thrice's albums besides IC are masterpieces. They can't even write a bad B-side

 

My top 5 Thrice songs would have to be Daedalus, Circles, The Long Defeat, Of Dust And Nations, and Digital Sea

 

I didn't love Blood on the Sand that much when it first came out, but it's become one of my favorites now.

 

Clearly you're missing out on how incredible Identity Crisis is.

YOU DON'T GET IT

 

There are some good songs on there, and man were they young when they wrote it so I don't want to not give them credit for it but..... I can't put it up as master piece status

 

Haha. Fair. I was partially if not mostly joking. On a five star scale, it'd be a stretch to give Identity Crisis as high as a four...when I could also understand an argument for, like, two.

However, after spending enough time with IC, I came to really cherish Thrice's day of writing structureless songs. Lacking structure at least in terms of typical chorus-based songs. The evolution of some of those songs is wild. They were so stubborn about not repeating verses or motifs or anything that a lot of those IC songs start at one place and end somewhere totally unexpected, which is an aspect I really appreciate.

 

I agree with all of that. I'd probably give it a 3 out of 5.