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Thrice - Palms (September 14, 2018) Album • Page 219

Discussion in 'Music Forum' started by teebs41, Jul 9, 2018.

  1. InExile

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    I kinda just want a music video of Thrice just playing the music but ok.
     
  2. Mike J

    We talk too much / We talk in circles

    Same.
     
  3. teebs41

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    Pines is a great song but not share a song in 5/4 is going to sell the band to “new listeners” either. Lol
     
  4. teebs41

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    Hold up a light is a single that would sadly do really well with the octane crowd lol.. I could see that song being played at Flyers games when they enter the ice. The flyers love their dad rock.
     
  5. Ken

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    I couldn't agree with this more.
     
  6. Mike J

    We talk too much / We talk in circles

    Pines is the best song on the record. A lot of people feel that way. Also, most listeners are oblivious to time signature. That's beside the point, though. I ultimately don't care what they choose as long as it's a new single. Making a new commercial for a commercial they released 3 months ago is futile.
     
  7. This is so extra and overly negative. Why are you so pressed about people liking the album more than you? Stop making it all about you.

    Thrice will be fine whatever they do with the rest of Palms' promotional cycle. Enjoy the ride intead of nitpicking every single decision they make. Take your frustration and move it towards them teaming up with BMTH on tour instead.
     
  8. You'd think Thrice is made up of big popstars with the way you're telling them to do X and Y in order to grow their popularity. If you keep setting unrealistic goals for them, you can only blame yourself if you're disappointed afterwards. They're +20 years in their career in an everchanging music industry, adjust your expectations a bit. Thanks xx
     
  9. sophos34

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    stop talking to a non existent user!
     
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  10. Davjs

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    They released the Grey awhile before the music video came out for it.
     
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  11. Mike J

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    That's true, but it was 5 weeks later. That single was still sprouting.
     
  12. Mike J

    We talk too much / We talk in circles

    Another reason why I pushed for Pines as a single/video is that it's such a visual song. The lyrics make me think of Terry Malick photography.
     
  13. Elder Lightning

    With metal in my bones and punk in my heart Supporter

    pre-release tracks =/= singles
     
  14. I'd argue pre-release tracks are singles (or buzz singles to be more specific) in 2018 due to the power of streaming. But perhaps it's different for a rock band.
     
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  15. Mike J

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    Riley calls 'em singles. Regardless, they're still commercials. Putting the same product back on the shelf in new packaging seldom works out.
     
  16. Davjs

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    If the label wants to push the song on radio, don't they normally get a video out for it as well?
     
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  17. Elder Lightning

    With metal in my bones and punk in my heart Supporter

    A single, generally, requires push by the band/label, which typically includes things like a music video. I see pre-release tracks as more for building hype about the new release among the existing fanbase, or those brought in by the single(s).

    It can if you're putting it in front of people who weren't aware of it before.
     
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  18. Mike J

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    The pre-release songs/singles arrive at a time when there's the most interest and appetite for a band's new music. There's curiosity as to what the upcoming record will sound like. It's also the time period where the band receives the most press (which wasn't much). Those who jumped off the Thrice wagon are also curious to see if they shred gnarly metal riffage again. If "Only Us" didn't convert then, it's not going to convert now since music videos are for the YouTube audience. That's the same audience who heard "Only Us" 3 months ago.

    If a mainstream pop star did this, that's one thing, but "Only Us" is not going to have a second wind three months later. Being chart eligible doesn't change anything.
     
  19. Davjs

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    They released Black Honey as a pre release track but it didn't take off and gain a whole new fan base until after the album was out with radio play and the music video. Maybe they want to do the same with Only Us?
     
  20. Hold Up A Light seems like an obvious choice for a single.
     
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  21. Mike J Nov 20, 2018
    (Last edited: Nov 20, 2018)
    Mike J

    We talk too much / We talk in circles

    Black Honey is just like The Grey. The video was released a month after initial release, at a time when that single was still sprouting. Black Honey went on to become their biggest single in 13 years. Neither is comparable to Only Us and its video's 3 month lag time.

    The WWE and Seether don't care about Only Us.

    The Only Us video is futile at this point.
     
  22. Davjs

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    If only Seether would cover Only Us, that would be awesome. Their Black Honey cover is great.
     
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  23. Mike J

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    Nobody cares what I think, and that's fine. But, I have owned a marketing company for 17 years. It's what I do. If someone wants to tell me I'm wrong, at least counter with a relevant example. Releasing a video a month into a single's lifespan is not the same as this Only Us video. At the end of the day, the lyric video will have done more for this song than its candy commercial.
     
  24. Mike J

    We talk too much / We talk in circles

    I would never support another Seether cover, but I would support someone or something taking an interest in these songs a la WWE or Seether. Thrice's publishing history is surprisingly meager.
     
  25. Transient_Hymn

    Somebody Turn the Neon Down Supporter

    Do videos matter at all anymore?
    I watch them once, maybe twice and then go back to listening to the album on Spotify.
     
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