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The Official Racism Thread Social • Page 84

Discussion in 'Politics Forum' started by Melody Bot, Mar 13, 2015.

  1. Kiana

    Goddamn, man child Prestigious

    For some reason the phrase "As a fellow white person..." really bothers me. I think maybe because they always say it to admonish another white person for their racist actions but then kind of pat themselves on the back for not being as bad as the fellow whites at the same time. Like optimistically they are maybe trying to mention their whiteness so as to not establish themselves as an authority and show they are just calling out their own, but sometimes I get the vibe that they're trying to show how ~down they are? idk I cannot articulate this thought properly so I should prob sit on it until I can but oh well.
     
  2. That behavior is also known as being a prominent lib twitter hack

    Performative allyship is a disease
     
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  3. sophos34

    Prestigious Supporter

    any "ally" making anything about themselves is no ally at all. step 1 of being helpful to marginalized communities: realize nothing is about you. its about them.
     
  4. AelNire

    @RiotGrlErin Prestigious

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  5. digital by birth

    Evolution not revolution

    What do you guys reckon, the media creates Racism or just reports on it?
     
  6. aranea

    Trusted Prestigious

    Depends on what you mean by asking this, and if you have any particular outlets in mind.


    Like...ya know...Faux News.
     
  7. digital by birth

    Evolution not revolution


    I meant in general really. There's a suspected Isis shooting in a Paris night club and the media are all over it, does this kind of reporting juts make the more susceptible hate Muslims and lead to unfounded hostility against people who, to the greater part, have no affinity with the group or, alternatively, do we even need to know? I call it the Fear Machine.

    Let me give you an example. There’s this guy with mental issues I see on my bus route. Well, one day after there’s been some reports of Terrorists setting fire to some people, he began ranting at the girl wearing a burka, saying “shame on the Muslims for what they’ve done”, to which she replied “Piss off mate!” And to me that’s a clear example of someone being affected directly by what they’ve seen in the news.
     
  8. crazy nate Dec 31, 2016
    (Last edited: Dec 31, 2016)
    crazy nate

    Harumph

    It's about us. There is no "them" if we wanna survive.
     
  9. Dominick

    Prestigious Prestigious

    We, meaning people of color, won't survive if anti-racist work takes the form of therapy for white people.
     
  10. crazy nate

    Harumph

    I feel like we just said the same thing in different ways.
     
  11. Dominick

    Prestigious Prestigious

    I took it as a sort of "we are all the human race, in it together" sort of thing. My apologies.
     
  12. crazy nate

    Harumph

    I was sorta saying that, and I was also being overly critical of the use of "them".

    I'm probably overly sensitive to being considered "other", despite the fact that I can't stop feeling that I am.
     
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  13. Jake Gyllenhaal

    Wookie of the Year Supporter

    Trigger: violence

     
  14. Kiana

    Goddamn, man child Prestigious

    Idk idk. A white coworker was talking about a slang term commonly used in the Latino community, insisting she knew what it meant. I had a slight disagreement with her but just semantics basically and she googled to confirm she was right and I was just like "girl I'd rather ask one of my friends who speaks Spanish and is immersed in that culture. Sry don't trust white sources" and she said "I hate to tell you this, but you're white." Wow thanks for the bomb u just dropped on me. Never knew I was pale and mixed!! It just seemed weird because she knows I'm mixed and also I wasn't positioning myself as an authority at all to feel the need for her to say that. Idk. Idk why it bothered me. I guess it would've bothered me less if she said white passing or half white or something idk maybe I'm ridic but it just feels symptomatic of ppl erasing a part of my identity cause it's not the convenient stereotype they have in their head of what certain ppl should look like. But then I also feel whiny cause when ppl see me they do see a totally 100% white person and that affords me a lot of privilege and stuff. Meh.
     
  15. skogsraet

    Trusted Supporter

    I sympathize a lot with your experience because despite being brown, some people (incidentally only ever old white men) have insisted that I'm solely American purely because I was born here and despite the fact that my brothers and I are the first American citizens in our family (going back before America even existed). After living for years feeling othered because of my skin color, the different culture I grew up in, never getting to know my family until I could afford to fly to Brazil, it's really offensive for someone who knows nothing about my life to try to tell me how I should identify. It's the same for someone telling you you're white -- no one knows your experiences or your family like you do and no one gets to tell you who you are, regardless of whether or not you're white passing. I think these attempts to erase identities based on what people think you look like are blatantly symptomatic of white america's need to categorize people so they can fit it into their narrative of a racial hierarchy...but let me not turn this into a rant haha. All I'm saying is you absolutely have the right to be offended, it's not ridiculous and your coworker sounds ignorant af and pretty damn racist, too.
     
  16. Dominick

    Prestigious Prestigious

    Convenience is the key term and just as it is convenient for her to dismiss your heritage for her purposes of maintaining some "white person that is knowledgeable" idea, the broader reality of how society sees a light-skinned person is highly precarious and situational. In some situations, a light-skinned person is privileged, whereas in others, particularly for light skinned women of color, they are in danger because their diminished whiteness means they're more vulnerable. The same is true of light-skinned black people who have to deal with cops. More importantly, as racism increases and becomes more overt, the more racialized people who do not meet a certain standard of whiteness become.
     
  17. St. Nate

    LGBTQ Supporter (Lets Go Bomb TelAviv Quickly) Prestigious

    People think all Asians are the same so people don't question it when I drop knowledge on other Asian people.
     
  18. AelNire

    @RiotGrlErin Prestigious

    Trigger warning just incase.



    God, I hate people.
     
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  19. Jake Gyllenhaal

    Wookie of the Year Supporter

    They even included the Zodiac symbol :teethsmile:
     
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  20. iCarly Rae Jepsen

    run away with me Platinum

    Ted Cruz is almost definitely against BLM
     
  21. iCarly Rae Jepsen

    run away with me Platinum

  22. AelNire

    @RiotGrlErin Prestigious

     
  23. ryan.conde

    Who is Ryan? Prestigious

    Steve Harvey can't believe anyone would like Asian men :tear:

     
  24. aranea

    Trusted Prestigious

    He's already a sexist creep, not shocked about racist commentary. He's not funny either. That video made me cringe. Can't believe anyone would actually laugh at that.

    Waiting for family feud to stop, you can't go one episode without some weird misogynistic comment.
     
  25. St. Nate

    LGBTQ Supporter (Lets Go Bomb TelAviv Quickly) Prestigious

    Mr. Hightower is trash.