The Metal Thread Genre • Page 293

Funny to see the name Atreyu and think back to when I was 14 and thought that band was so heavy and shredded. I can’t really even get through a full spin of any album of theirs now.

 

I can jam Suicide Notes and The Curse just fine, even bits of Death Grip and Long Live, but I get the sentiment - Lead Sails and Congregation are pretty weak now. And that new one, which I listened to out of morbid curiosity, is absolute trash.

But yes, when I was 12-14 they were fucking top notch. I think they got me because they looked kinda like My Chem but had screaming and breakdowns, which I thought was rad. I'm not even gonna lie; I may have looked a bit like Brandon Saller back then because he had the coolest hair out of all of them at that time, which is ironic because he's bald now...

 

I went to a Sepultura show once just to see Atreyu. Not many people knew them. I honestly can't remember how it was. I remember the old metal heads there not liking them, though. Probably not the best band to support them now I come to think of it.

 

Hahaha ironically enough now that I think about it, the only time I ever saw Atreyu was the Taste of Chaos tour in 07' or 08' with A7X, Blessthefall, Bullet For My Valentine, and 3 Japanese rock bands I had never heard of before. You likely will never catch me listening to those bands willingly now.

 

It was around that time I started to listening to heavier stuff, so their debut was one of the last in the genre that I really got into. The show wasn't long after the debut, so 2002? God, that makes me feel so old.

 

Atreyu hasn't been good since The Curse, and that is a hill I'm willing to die upon.

 

I'm not sure Atreyu was ever really that great. They have some catchy metalcore songs on their early records, but even in their heyday, they always seemed like a second tier act to me.

 

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More rad shit out on 20 Buck Spin. These guys can't be stopped right now.

 

Prosthetic just signed these guys. I dig. Very Old Wounds-esque.

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While I think A Death Grip On Yesterday had some decent songs - same with Long Live - I generally agree with this.

 

Atreyu's Alex Varkatzas: "We Invented Metalcore. That May Sound Cocky But I Don't Care." | Theprp.com

Speak of the devil, here's the Atreyu singer saying dumb things.

Y'all doofuses didn't invent metalcore. Considering bands like Integrity, Coalesce, Botch, Shai Hulud, and even TDEP predate your band's existence, that's quite a bold claim. He could have phrased it better if he said his band was among the progenitors of the screamed verses-clean choruses modern melodic metalcore sound, but alas.

 

Wow. Just... fuck. What a tool. Alex Varkatzas obviously, not you.

 

What a colossal bellend that man is.

 

I don't exactly blame him for saying that...I've argued earlier in this thread that there's been a lot of differing definitions of metalcore. Shai hulud and poison the well combine hardcore and metal. Then you have atreyu, aild, bullet for my valentine which was some rebranded definition of metalcore in the early to mid 2000s which was how you described it.

Though bottom line is discussing labels and who invented what is pretty dumb to begin with.

 

I mean if you wanna boil it down to bands who did the scream-sing style, they’re still hardly the first to do that.

But hey I guess a controversial quote will get people talking about your band when the music can’t stand on its own

 

Ya that's for sure. I felt like for a bit they were trying to be the American bring me the horizon, didn't pan out.

Bleeding mascara will always be one of my favorite metal intro tracks. Such fun noodling.

Actually We should post some of our favorite intro metal tracks actually. I judge so many albums from how it opens and like the first three tracks.

 

I’m not really sure I would even label the new record as metalcore. If the band really wanted to come back swinging they should not have chosen the same producer that gave us the “gem” that is Lead Sails...

On that same note, Alex doesn’t have a foot to stand on because let’s be real: his voice sounds awful now and Brandon is the voice of the band and because of that we get a song like Terrified.

I like how they also tried to stay relevant by getting Aaron Gallespie and M. Shadows on the other worst song on the album, Super Hero. They even brought back those awful horns...

 

Hey Atreyu: before you were even standing there were bands like Earth Crisis, Hatebreed and Integrity.

 

"Bleeding Mascara" is hands down the best Atreyu song, For all the shit talking we're giving out to them that song is still pretty brutal, and Alex's screams still sound inhuman on that.

Also, I like your album-openers idea. Here's mine. Hands down the best intro track ever made in my opinion.

 

To wit, I remember an AltPress issue I had in high school that had a section on the most important albums of 1999 (this was in 2009 so it was like a ten-year anniversary thing), and they talked about The Opposite Of December. They had Oli Sykes from BMTH talking about how that album was basically the main template for BMTH's sound, and that he basically made all the other members to listen to it and copy it.

 

Shit, that wasn't even originally in metalcore. The first band often held to be the pioneers of alternating clean/harsh vocals is Fear Factory. The many, many metalcore bands that definitely preceded Atreyu - from what I've heard in my journeys into 90s metalcore - largely didn't do clean vocals at all. The earliest ones aside from Poison The Well seem to be Vision Of Disorder. But again, I could be wrong and i'm happy to be corrected.

Also, I just want to post my favourite Fear Factory song, 100% better than Atreyu's fresh dirty nu turd...

 

oh man I hated this song/album when I first heard it. Now it just sounds so primal and eerie, right up my alley.

 

I remember being straight up terrified by it because I stumbled on it at age 13 from a Limewire download. now, it's one of my favourite metal songs from one of my favourite metal albums.

 

Never actually listened to Atreyu.

 

Lol yes I know it’s not just a “metalcore” Thing originally, but I’m just speaking to that particular sound. Poison the Well, 18 Visions, etc.

Also I recently listened to Demanufacture for the first time, excellent record