The Hardcore Thread Genre • Page 52

DEMO X 2013, by COLDXSNAP

Jesse’s also done this xxx side band

 

What do you consider their best? I've actually never given a chance to their earlier or later stuff.

 

Belly of a Shark was fun on guitar hero. That was about the extent of my fandom for Gallows. Never really got the hype behind them. However, their vocalist went on to do a classic rock band with the guitarist from HopeCon and I loved that album.

 

Well, they don't sound like those bands so it makes sense.

What's the name of that band?

 

Pure Love. The album was called Anthems. A lot of fun.

 

He's now doing music as Frank Carter and the Rattlesnakes too

Pure Love is by far the worst thing he's done imo

 

I will have to check it out! All you had to say was The Hope Conspiracy.

 

Whaaaaat? I think it’s his best. To each their own I suppose.

 

Trade Wind is pretty rad too if you're not already familiar.

 

Trade Wind is SO GOOD!

 

Oh I love me some Trade Wind. Went to one of their record release shows when the LP came out.

 

He lost everything that was unique about his voice on that Pure Love album

 

Hard disagree. His heavy vocals were bland to me and grating on my ears after 1-3 songs. I think his stage presence was what really drove people into them. I remember apprehensively listening to Pure Love and then being genuinely surprised by the fact that I liked it so much. But if you’re a fan of Gallows style specifically I can understand why some wouldn’t like it.

 

I like their first two albums.

 

A couple of those Pure Love songs were super catchy

 

I wasn't sold on the Cult Leader EP but Lightless Walk is really cool and has SO MANY influences. I am looking forward to spinning it again.

 

Trap Them and Pulling Teeth records are both great

 

Gallows with Frank Carter was significantly better than Gallows with Wade. Orchestra of Wolves and Grey Britain are both amazing albums, not to say that the self-titled and Desolation Sounds are bad. They're just in a different league. Check them out if you haven't.

Re: Pure Love/Gallows/Frank Carter vox

With Frank Carter and the Rattlesnakes, I definitely think Frank's found the sweet spot in his singing. They still have the personality that he had with Gallows and sound great, but don't sound sterile with they did with Pure Love.

I think metallic hardcore is actually an apt descriptor for a lot of bands especially if their guitars are significantly downtuned, and they play heavy, metallic riffs as opposed to the punkier feel of hardcore during it's nascent period. This is further true if we're talking about a band that could arguably fit well into both camps of metal and hardcore like Weekend Nachos, Shai Hulud, Converge, or Code Orange.

 

Have you ever listened to Gaza? That's a good reference to have in the Cult Leader canon, because their EP is a solid transitional release from Gaza, but Lightless Walk is really when they came out into their own.

 

No, but I am going to check them out. There was a huge sticker on the EP: MEMBERS OF GAZA!

 

Metallic Hardcore is just another way of saying Metalcore. I get why bands do it though.

And I agree with everything Frank related you said

 

Lumping Shai Hulud and Asking Alexandria in the same basket is comparing apples and oranges.

 

Grey Britain is definitely my favorite from them .

 

One thing to be aware of with Gaza: The band broke up under super shitty circumstances where their vocalist was accused of rape via a Tumblr post. The accuser and the vocalist reached an amicable personal solution behind the scenes, but the rest of the band chose to cut ties with the vocalist and form Cult Leader. Interpret that as you will, but it's made it hard for me to listen to Gaza over the last few years.

 

Yeah But Shai Hulad is more of a mix of metal and hardcore than AA lol.