The Dangerous Summer - Coming Home (2022) Album • Page 16

I’m pretty sure a lot of people think Mother Nature is one of their best, myself included. It doesn’t seem like you were a huge fan, but it’s pretty highly regarded.

 

I am a fan of MN. I just didn’t fall in love with it as much as most people on here seemed to.

 

Been gone camping for the last few days and this thread was so fun to come home to

 

Wel-cum back!

 

Did you go in the mouth of any caves on your camping trip?

 

Nah, the caves here are nothing like the caves out on the road

 

Don’t worry someday you’ll get to go into a cave you’ll treat right

 

I mean if you go read the lyrics on the first two albums sure on the surface it’s a lot more poetic and means more to us but really how much of it is a melodramatic emo kid blowing smoke because he’s fronting a band and needs to write something? he’s gotten less wordy as he’s gotten older and yeah this time around it’s much more direct but it’s so unfair to say wow how does someone write THIS at 20 and THIS at 33. Because when you’re 20 the world and the love in it still seem infinite and when you’re 33 you’ve had the wool pulled from over your eyes and realize maybe there’s not much more to any of this than making tunes and getting fucked up. Who knows I’m on day 6 of fentanyl withdrawal I mostly just wish I was dead right now tbh

 

This is far from the first time AJ has written about sex/relationships in a way that just comes off more poetic/sweet than overt/explicit

Never Feel Alone I think is a good example

"I drank the weekend to the ground, and you're in my arms
I kept my feelings to myself, and you weren't wearing much at all
It wasn't like me to move closer to you
A feelings just a feeling till you let it get the best of who you are
Then sleep gets harder, and I need more of you
So lay down on the couch and let me show you why I need you more
Than all the boys on your street"

It gets the point across without being like the 2022 version:

"A feelings just a feeling till you let me into your mouth and go
Then sleep gets harder, and I need more of you
So lay down on the couch and let me show you why I need you more
Than all the girls on the road"

 

Not that it changes Cringe level on the line, but did anyone think it could be written from the point of view of a guy that is this way? And not 100% autobiographical

 

I don’t even see what the problem with the girls on the road line is in the first place but whatever the songs mediocre regardless

 

It wasn't just that line people were on about

 

I think it’s just that people have higher expectations for this band given their past output. The lyrics definitely stick out like a sore thumb and it’s not weird to for people to expect better from the band. I don’t think the lyrics are offensive or anything, it’s just very bad songwriting.

 

Well there is no denying the difference between youth and adulthood, it's not surprising at all that the lyrical focus has shifted so much, everything is new and exciting and soul searching is often on the forefront of the experience as a kid. It's hard to hold onto this as life goes on, though not impossible: as a writer myself, I've found it more difficult to be creative and open minded the older I get.
There are some newer songs though with great metaphors and deeper meaning, Infinite and Mother Nature come to mind, they just seem to be fewer and far between.

The essence of youth is more meaningful than the conformity to human culture, but most of us fall victim to the latter.

Hope you get through it and find another path, it's been a long time but I used to have some drug issues myself and understand. Hang in there!

 

I mean no but the other one is more obviously terrible. Like I said whatever songs not great regardless

 

Thanks I’ve been here probably 200 fucking times just running on the same hamster wheel for almost 7 years and I’m losing my fucking mind lol

 

Well coming from someone whose been out of it for over ten years now, the grass truly is greener. I would highly recommend doing some research (if you don't already know) on the benefits of psychedelics and treating addiction. With the right setting and intentions, they can be a very powerful healing medicine and I can absolutely attest to benefits they offer when used properly.

 

Yeah I mean my old doctor did ketamine infusions but he felt safer putting me on TMS instead given my pretty severe drug addiction but it’s certainly not off the table especially now that I’m in the market for a new doctor (mines fine, just had to move half way across the country back home, again) I can find another who offers it and maybe bring it up. That’s about all I’m open to lol I know about other shit that can be good for addiction but I’m just over putting mind altering chemicals in my body that overwhelm and take over. Anyway different convo for a different time would love to hear your experience just DM me we can chat

 

Rooting for you @sophos34.

 

Also rooting for you @sophos34

 

thanks friends. was in a not so different spot, albeit far less severe when Mother Nature was dropping. I tell ya the amount my disease has just straight up accelerated over the last two years is….alarming. Like I’m at the end of my life every time I start again until I stop because every time could be my last and I’m getting hospitalizing infections and shit now and a whole host of other social issues I just…I’m so tired

 

Hang in there, @sophos34. Please be careful with fentanyl - especially messing with blues after a break. I’m sure you’re aware, it’s just that they’re super hot and unpredictable in my area (west coast) and maybe yours too?

I can’t pretend to know what you’re going through. Just wanted to offer my support. You aren’t alone in this fight.

 

Oh I know, I was on the east coast but my parents came and got me out last week (unaware of what was going on until my dad arrived to get me a rental car to drive home and saw me and said you aren’t driving shit get in the back lol) I’ve been exclusively doing just fent for years now but since about a year ago maybe a little more I cannot do any without mixing coke with it too so I get all kinds of heart problems when I’m using, horrible edema leading to super swollen feet and ankles, inability to walk long distances without getting winded or light headed and passing out, it got really scary really fast considering I had six months clean until I relapsed in late may. I had to go to the hospital and they thought I had endocarditis but thank god I didn’t but I still somehow got a very big lung infection plus tons of infected injection sites. I’m just a mess. I’ve been clean for a week though

 

My thoughts as well. Also, rooting for you along with everyone else in this thread.

Overall, the song is mid. It could use more dynamics and a better primary vocal hook. They've really simplified their songwriting since MN, which has worked really well (Fuck Them All, Come Down), but this is maybe more of a miss under that songwriting philosophy.

Have really enjoyed the two other singles, though.

 

I guess this may be a benefit of Rude Records, but if you check out Dangerous Summers story, Coming Home got added to like 9 million platforms it sounds like