The Batman (Matt Reeves, March 4, 2022) Movie • Page 139

I can’t be bothered by who likes what cape movies in 2022 (outside of playful ribbing), but just on a basic media analysis level, this take confuses me.

As a couple people already noted, the introduction to Batman in this movie communicates pretty clearly how people in Gotham feel about him and why. I personally think this did that part better than any prior Bat-film.

Also, him being in a bat-themed costume is a pretty significant part of the story. The cops who don’t like him feel awkward around this weirdo civilian in a crime-fighting suit and cape. The Riddler, who easily could’ve deduced that he’s Bruce Wayne, didn’t bother because he identified with his interpretation of “The Batman” and created his own “vengeance” vigilante; those followers did the same.

As for the “grandiose” part, I agree that’s in some ways less present, but I think it’s debatable on if that’s a good or bad thing. I personally don’t vibe with “grandiose” Batman as much (depending on how we’re defining that), which puts the Nolan films lower in my personal Bat-canon than it is for most people.

 

Holy shit, I need more stuff like this.

 

Caught it last night and wanted to go through the whole thread before I posted. Seems I’m in line with everyone else that thought it was exceptional. Especially the first half. The whole cast was great with Dano being a little over the top. Kravits was particularly great and stole every scene imo. Definitely have some issues with that last act.

The opening was great and loved first person binocular panning as the riddler. It’s been said but all the criminals afraid of the bat signal and looking at various shadows in fear of the Bat was a nice touch.

Batmobile/chase sequence was real nice. The batmobile itself was a perfect balance of practical and badass for lack of a better word. Nice touch having it stall at first I loved that. Colin and John T were great additions to the cast. They both lived in their roles.

I think my issue with the last act was just how heavy handed it was though it made sense to show how Batman was aware of how he was affecting his environment in a negative way. Obviously he needed to see this in order to change and idk how I would fix it or change it so. Yeah it was fine and the fight scene with the “venom” was dope

 

Also someone else mentioned already but lol at Alfred waking up smiling and Bruce “YOU LIED TO ME”

 

Are drops from the comics or did they make it up for this movie?

 

I had no idea what you were talking about until looking it up just now.

I thought drops was just a slang term for a place to pick up illegal goods and didn't think too hard about it.

It never occurred to me that drops are a specific drug. And I think it's original; I don't remember it from the comics.

 

I kinda hate it if it was just made up for the movie.

 

I like parts of it, especially Pfeiffer’s Catwoman, but Returns is just a big budget action movie that happens to have Batman in it — not an actual Batman movie if that makes sense.

Anyway, I remember the backlash when reviews started coming out and my parents wouldn’t let me go see it even though they took me to the first one as my first movie ever at 5 years old.

 

The idea that “just a guy who fights in a cape” ISNT working was beautiful. Sure he could keep criminals scared which he has, as beautifully done by the intro scenes. It’s the elevation he finds at the end that he can begin to see something else for Batman (as the woman grips his arm fearful of being left WITHOUT Batman). All beautifully inverted from the man in the train station getting mugged saying “don’t hurt me” to Batman in the beginning.

 

Yeah, those moments really bookended the public's perception of Batman nicely.

 

if you've got a couple hours to kill

 

great movie, tbh

 

Greig Fraser is seriously near the top of the DP game at this point.

 

Alfred deserved to get blown up for opening a package clearly marked private for Bruce’s eyes only

 

I don't, but I'll be late for my appointments.

 

How did Batman not die, or get severe burns on his face when the bomb exploded at the funeral?

 

I expected the complaint to be that Batman wasn’t in it that much. Also, was this kid coached to say this or was he just super nervous?

 

I would assume he was coached. I can’t imagine a teenage boy saying the penguins rubber duck boat was an attack on children. That sounds like an adult grasping at straws to support their point.

 

“I saw it twice so I could get a good view of it”

hilarious

 

or arrested. that's a felony.

 

Probably for the same reason he can tank a wall of gunfire.

In-universe, because his armor is just that good.

Real world? Because it's a movie.

 

I just read something on TV Tropes that I thought was interesting.

They say Catwoman calls someone "honey" when she doesn't mean it, and "baby" when she does mean it.

Like, she'll call Penguin and Gil "honey", but Annika, who means something to her, she'll call "baby".

With Batman, she starts out calling him "honey", and then as they get closer, she switches to "baby". Then when he refuses to help her kill, she goes back to "honey", but when she helps him at the end of the movie, she returns to "baby".

I like subtle touches like that. It's fascinating.

 

It’s because the man has a chin carved from Granite. Have you seen the guy?

 

Has it been discussed that during the post credit thing that a website flashes?

http://www.rataalada.com/

 

It has. I see it's at 90% now. I wonder what happens at 100%?