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Taylor Swift - The Tortured Poets Department (April 19, 2024) Album • Page 63

Discussion in 'Music Forum' started by iCarly Rae Jepsen, Feb 4, 2024.

  1. irthesteve

    formerly irthesteve Prestigious

    There was a conversation earlier about how to consider this, two albums, main album and deluxe, etc. While she does say artistically it's two albums, by all technical accounts it's one album and a deluxe. On the charts, every stream from both halves contribute to one album total. Only one album is charting, not two. Same with award show submissions, one album.
     
  2. bradpetrik

    Trusted Prestigious

    So what was the midnight surprise at that record store?
     
  3. irthesteve

    formerly irthesteve Prestigious

     
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  4. Matt Chylak

    I can always be better, so I'll always try. Supporter

    Remember when Jack Antonoff made this

     
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  5. irthesteve

    formerly irthesteve Prestigious

    Masseducation is quite a fantastic album
     
  6. RobJGolde

    Wrecked 'em? Damn near killed 'em!

    If I wanted to listen to Evermore and Midnights b-sides together on shuffle I would’ve just done that. And only 1 of those albums is actually good through and through.

    I’m still hearing the same sonic/melodic choices as those albums. The same chord progressions. The same vocal inflections. Some of these lyrics could’ve used a 2nd draft. And she is just not good at cursing. I dunno how to explain it but some people just can’t sell swearing.

    I don’t hate Taylor btw. She is genuinely extremely talented, she has a lot of songs I like, she seems like a nice person and has come a long way. But there was no reason to put 31 songs out so soon.

    Half of these songs could been tweaked a little more over the course another year, recorded them all in 3 months with Aaron Dressner or some other not-Jack Antonoff producer then it could’ve been great.
     
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  7. sophos34

    Prestigious Supporter

    I quite frankly can’t stand the ten minute all too well and think the original is her best song and everyone gassing up a far inferior version has done horrible things to her as a writer
     
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  8. OhTheWater

    Let it run Supporter

    Yeah 10 min is much worse
     
  9. irthesteve

    formerly irthesteve Prestigious

    10 min version far superior
     
  10. imthegrimace

    the poster formally known as thesheriff Supporter

    As a casual swiftie I want to say her best song is Majorie easily.
     
  11. irthesteve

    formerly irthesteve Prestigious

    No
     
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  12. Zoshchenko

    Trusted Supporter

    the very first night
     
  13. irthesteve

    formerly irthesteve Prestigious

    This thread is seriously unhinged, even for chorus.fm standards
     
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  14. littledudeman

    Newbie

    Wait is that seriously all it is? My wife is trying to get us to get up super early and wait in line cause she’s thinking some big?
     
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  15. irthesteve

    formerly irthesteve Prestigious

    Yep
     
  16. Murph

    Regular Supporter

    Record stores by me were already giving them out on release day with purchases.
     
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  17. pbueddi

    Trusted

    This album is just "fine" to me. As it's been mentioned, it seems like a lot of the same. It's great music to throw on in the background or something, but it doesn't do much more than that for me.
     
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  18. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    We’re far enough past the hype around the 10-minute version that I feel more comfortable saying that it sucks. It is the Snyder Cut of pop music. Good editing is an asset, not something to be cursed! She probably learned some bad lessons from the entire “All Too Well” journey.
     
  19. Matthewconte

    Trusted Supporter

    I missed a few pages in here but have we talked about the incredible similarity between "imgonnagetyouback" and Olivia Rodrigo's "Get Him Back"?
     
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  20. SpyKi

    You must fix your heart Supporter

    I don't like the 10 minute long version of All Too Well but I do really love her current wordy approach to songwriting. I think she's always been great at packing a lot of information into her songs and letting choruses evolve lyrically as the song goes on which is one of my favourite things.
     
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  21. Garrett

    i tore a hole in the fabric of time Moderator

    I think when all the dust settles and the discourse and initial reactions have run its course, this will settle into the lower third of her discography. However, this may be the most personal record she’s ever written (with the exception of Red), and on that front, I find it pretty fascinating.

    I think any creator of art, any medium, understands that moment where the only way to process everything going on is to craft through it. I wrote an entire poetry collection trying to just process 2020/2021 in a way that let my brain expel feelings. This activity is on full display here with Taylor and some distance will allow us to actually see Taylor the person. We joke about “capitalist queen” and “billionaire” because she is those things, but at the end of the day, neither of those things made her happy. Her songs say it blatantly, but do we know if she’s learned it yet?

    The songs about Travis (The Alchemy, So High School) feel like an entirely different person than the other 29 songs at times. Those two and Clara Bow really do seem like the Taylor the lyricist we may see going forward.

    But Daddy, I Love Him is probably going to be the main one from this album that sticks in the fandom at large. The chorus has been stuck in my head for days. It’s got the grandiosity of Getaway Car with a smidge more personality. Personality is a big factor with the songs I’ve started to latch onto with this project. The ones that have little flares over calculated presentations really do stand out to me. (Including ICDIWABH and WAOLOM? as personality choices.)

    Just some rambling thoughts I’ve had thinking about the album this morning over coffee.
     
  22. Garrett

    i tore a hole in the fabric of time Moderator

    Re: All Too Well

    Original supremacy always. Singing the 10 minute version with 75,000 other people word for word was one of my favorite “this is what it feels like to be a human” moments.
     
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  23. youll be fine

    Trusted Supporter

    Yeah one is goat and the other is Taylor’s song
     
  24. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    “All Too Well 10” live was an “I’ll allow it” situation, but still not in my top 10 Eras Tour moments, and this is coming from someone who clocked the original as his favorite Taylor Swift song within the first 24 hours after Red leaked back in fall 2012. (It is no longer my favorite Taylor Swift song, or even my favorite song from that album.)
     
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  25. RobJGolde

    Wrecked 'em? Damn near killed 'em!

    Good song bur I think “Mirrorball” is her best