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Taylor Swift - The Tortured Poets Department (April 19, 2024) Album • Page 27

Discussion in 'Music Forum' started by iCarly Rae Jepsen, Feb 4, 2024.

  1. Cmoney86

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    Length is 65:08 plus the 4 bonus tracks
     
  2. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    The song titles really do sound like Girls5Eva bits.
     
  3. Michael Belt

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    this is like her fourth or fifth album this length (excluding any bonus tracks). i think the OG version of Red is one second longer. not entirely upset, but i'd love some shorter albums again, without the need to add on bonus tracks later on.
     
  4. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    Pop stans are deranged losers who think any album shorter than an hour is an EP, so I don't think she's going to make shorter albums.
     
  5. sawhney[rusted]2

    I'll write you into all of my songs Supporter

    wait really?
     
  6. Michael Belt

    metadata incarnate Supporter

    maybe i'm out of the loop, but i don't know of any other heavily-stanned pop/pop-adjacent artists making albums over an hour long aside from maybe LDR, Beyoncé, and Nicki. and from what i can tell, a good number of K-Pop releases are somewhat short yet they're always marketed as albums.
     
  7. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    There was some very dumb Twitter discourse about this last week.



    Drake is the trendsetter in the current "I will make my album genuinely endless" wave. But there are a ton of artists doing it, beyond the mentioned. In the past couple years, SZA, Bad Bunny, Kendrick, Kanye, etc.
     
  8. bradsonemanband Apr 11, 2024
    (Last edited: Apr 11, 2024)
    Bring back ~40 min full lengths.

    I used to love when I'd download a couple albums back in the day and they'd each be like 38 minutes long so I'd be able to put both onto a single 80 min CD-R.

    Youths today are more interested in quantity than quality in just about everything.
     
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  9. Micah511

    We reach for the longest shadow

    Seriously, the best albums are 38-44 minutes long, unless we’re talking something super progressive with 10 minute songs. That’s why The 1975s newest is my favorite of theirs, they trimmed the fat and it’s perfect.
     
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  10. Surfwax

    bring on the major leagues Supporter

    i'm never sad about getting more music at first, but in general high 30s/40 on the dot is definitely the sweet spot. been trying to listen to a full album i haven't heard every day and anything in the 50s is instant annoyance at seeing the length
     
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  11. dpatrick23

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    Most albums should be able to be trimmed down to 35-50 mins and then you can always release a deluxe/bonus version with the extra stuff to goose the streaming numbers anyway. Best of both worlds imo.
     
  12. Michael Belt

    metadata incarnate Supporter

    unless you can genuinely craft a sonically cohesive sequencing across 60+ minutes, it doesn't feel like that important of a benchmark to meet. it seems heavily geared towards streaming/playlist exposure, and makes listening feel like a chore. like i'm not opposed to long albums (The Fragile is one of my all-time favorites, and the definitive vinyl version clocks in just under 2 hours), but they should be an exception and not the norm.

    on the flip side of this, the discourse surrounding whether shorter albums should be considered albums has always been kind of stupid, although i can get frustrations surrounding releases being passed off as albums that have a bunch of shorter songs but a runtime that's EP length. ultimately, however, none of it really matters the way it used to.
     
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  13. It's funny that in this day and age where it's all about consistently releasing, and "SINGLES, SINGLES, SINGLES, SINGLES!", "PLAYLISTS, PLAYLISTS, PLAYLISTS, PLAYLISTS!", short attention spans, "the TikTok Generation", these same people are complaining that an artist's album is too short if it's under an hour long... I don't get it haha.
     
  14. dpatrick23

    Regular Supporter

    The masses demand Content
     
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  15. sawhney[rusted]2

    I'll write you into all of my songs Supporter

    Well I demand a cohesive album listening experience, and I don't care whether it's 30min or 1hr and 15min

    I abhor making albums long for commercial reasons
     
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  16. Michael Belt

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    it's also interesting that so much emphasis is placed on tons of songs/shorter songs for the sole purpose of using in TikToks, but this can't really be done at the moment given the UMG lockout.
     
  17. somethingwitty

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    Isn’t there some advantage to charts and numbers by putting more tracks in a record? I thought that was the reason a lot of artists were putting out these massive records.
     
  18. arewehavingfunyet

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    [​IMG]

    “Sure, we goosed them a little bit”
     
  19. Garrett

    i tore a hole in the fabric of time Moderator

    Taylor is back on TikTok as of this morning, unlike the rest of the UMG catalog.
     
  20. manoverboard365

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    I'm surprised Taylor hasnt already made a song called Yesternights.
     
  21. iCarly Rae Jepsen

    run away with me Platinum

    More streams overall and easier to album bomb
     
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  22. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    She missed an opportunity on that one.
     
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  23. Michael Belt

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    good thing Girls5eva got to BPE first
     
  24. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    Taylor should cover that one on her next tour.