Taking Back Sunday Band • Page 519

Folks, we have come full circle!

Taking Back Sunday 2009:

Go on tell me that you're better
And you'd rather just forget
how things have gone so far
Yeah tell that me that you're better
And you'd rather just forget
That things have gone too far

Mark O'Connell 2024:

"I'm better than you,
why am I so much better than you?
I don't know why I'm better than you
But I just am and that's the way it is!

 

And winter passing

 

That’s true. I keep forgetting that bands/artists flooding the zone with singles is a relatively recent development. Still though, Swing should’ve been the lead single to capitalize off the Louder Now momentum.

 

Long Time Comin absolutely rips and it makes me sad to see how few streams it has on Spotify. Didn't See That Coming also should've made the cut.....speaking of, was that song taken off streaming recently? Spotify only has the Orensanz live version.

 

Winter Passing is a good song but very much feels like a B-side

 

I also recall the band speaking very highly of Winter Passing during the making of New Again, and they were all excited about it, and then it didn't even make the album.

 

Not sure, but the Orensanz version is so good with that keys and strings outro. Also I’m just a sucker for a song where a 12-string acoustic is the focal point of the whole thing

 

That didn't stop them from putting "Summer, Man" and "Capital M-E" on the album

 

Sink Into Me being the lead single felt weird considering they'd been playing New Again and maybe Everything Must Go live prior to the album's release (I know at Fazzi's first show at the Crazy Donkey they played two, and I think it was those two, but New Again might have been Carpathia). They also released an early version of Carpathia as a free download if you bought their holiday cards the December before the album came out as well. Carpathia has that fun bassline (even if the lyrics are a bit ehhhh). I just feel like Sink Into Me was a "written to be a hit" song that felt a little forced to me.

 

I am pro-Sink Into Me and anti-Capital M-E and Cut Me Up Jenny, but I like the rest of the album.

 

Weren't they excited about it because it was written in an atypical (for them) time signature? Or it had a time signature change in it? I think it makes sense that it's not on the album tonally, but I do wish it had gotten more recognition. It wasn't even a bonus track for a pre-order or different edition of the album. They dropped it nearly a year later (oddly enough probably right around the time they started plotting to bring John and Shaun back into the band) as a download.

 

This thread is really making me self-conscious about my "Cut Me Up Jenny" tattoo

 

If I could just pick one song from New Again to become a set list regular, it’d be “Carpathia.” It’s just so high energy and fun, and would be rad to hear with John (or Fred).

 

Summer, Man slander? You're choosing violence.

I agree Capital M-E is one of the weakest songs from the album, but surprisingly it's the 2nd most streamed song from New Again.

 

New Again (the song) could have been great if they take out the last 75 seconds or so. That song starts off pretty strong and then drags and drags and really puts a strain on Adam (especially on Orensanz).

Carpathia is easily the second best song on NA (after Swing).

 

From wikipedia (and I remember reading this at the time)

On November 6, 2008, Taking Back Sunday revealed in Rolling Stone that their fourth studio album was to be titled New Again and would feature the tracks "Winter Passing", "Lonely Lonely", "Catholic Knees", and "Carpathia". They stated that "Winter Passing" was "... a slow dance like the last song at your 8th grade dance [that] moves more like an R&B tune than a rock and roll song"

 

I think you’re thinking of Catholic Knees, the main riff of which is in 6/4.

 

It's all those streams from being on the transformers soundtrack I guess???

 

Probably a bit of that plus the interest in it being about Fred, I assume

 

I think I'm just impressed I remembered that any song was in a different time signature.

Ah, okay. That makes sense.

 

Musically no, but they have the same vibe imo. Something about it I can't quite put my finger on

 

i don't think there was a single strong enough on NA to build on the momentum they had gotten from LN.

and i'm a huge NA fan.

 

I'm a fake fan, I meant "Where My Mouth Is" and "Capital M-E"

 

NA is still my favourite TBS record though

 

I thought the title track would have been a great fit for lead single and kicking off an era with that lineup change.