Taking Back Sunday Band • Page 316

yeah well until tipping is done away with (not gonna hold my breath for that day) that’s how most ppl with jobs that offer tips make any type of living. so, good general rule to follow is if you’re using a service that offers the option for tips, you should probably tip.

 

I'll be honest--I didn't realize tipping was an expectation either so now i feel bad.

What's the amount expected? obviously, pending the total amount but just wondering. Most mine avg 10-15 total

 

If I recall correctly, one of uber or lyft didn't have the option to tip when they first came out? I recall not tipping ridesharing being a thing for a while on those.

 

I saw an article saying 60% of Uber riders don't tip, but it was from a couple years ago... I definitely don't think you're alone. I'm not a driver, but even $1-$5 for a short-ish ride goes a long way.

 

you should tip for literally any service industry. it isn’t just food service. that’s, like, the bare minimum for human decency man.

 

any service that offers tips generally exploits workers by not paying a living wage, usually well below minimum wage. once you factor in gas and mileage, and wear and tear, Lyft and Uber drivers are lucky to break even let alone make a profit. when I was working for Lyft, I believe they took at least 25-30% of the total gross revenue from the cost of the ride, and charged additional fees that drivers don’t even see on their end. there are times when drivers will be waiting an hour or more for a ride request and that ride may only be a short trip and thus only about $3 in the drivers pocket if not tipped. I don’t really know how to tell you how much you should tip, but I mean I wouldn’t think of it too much differently than tipping a waiter/waitress at a restaurant; in my case I try to tip as much as I feel I am able to.

as far as Dominos goes, idk how other delivery services work, but I make $5 an hour when I am on the road, and $8.50 when I am in store. most nights I spend the majority of time on the road. I am lucky in that I seem to make p good tips doing it. that said, it is still a borderline unsustainable job if you look at it on a long enough timeline and factor in how much strain it puts on your vehicle. it is what it is.

 

Tipping is so ingrained in American culture that I don't think it will go away even if wages rise to an actual livable level. Anytime I go to one of those restaurants where they have signs saying "don't tip our staff, we pay them a living wage" and then don't have the tip option on the receipt I feel dirty.

 

I agree! I still tip, even though I hate it. I'm probably an asshole for this, but my only exception are food places where you order at the counter. If I say "I'd like burrito #4 please" and they spin around a pay kiosk device, I'm not going to just automatically hit the 15% tip button.

 

I've started tipping for that and things like pickup order during the pandemic. Tipping has reached new extremes in the last year. I don't mind because it's helping people out, but it be great if companies just paid their people so we don't have to. If I was trying to run a campaign in support of raising the minimum wage, I would just show a graph of how much the average American spends per year paying someone else's employees through tips. Might work.

 

for anyone curious, this was the post I made when it happened (almost 4 years ago holy shit lol)

 

How'd the tour go?

 

had a great time, def my fav tour I have been on and I still consider the band we toured with (Cheem) to be some of the best friends I have made via playing shows/touring. also just genuinely love them musically too. that said, it was still kind of a disaster as all of the tours I have been on have been, it was just a really really fun disaster haha. gotta love diy

 

What's your band called?

 

I feel like I would have loved touring or at least the road trip with friends aspect of it.

 

we were called mineral girls. I played lead guitar. we ended up breaking up a few months after that post actually, sadly. still v proud of the music we made tho. if you wanna check it out, this is prob the best entry point into our stuff, p much an even midpoint between the two albums we put out.

I am now doing stuff under the name problem addict, which has been on hold since the pandemic started basically, but we have some (admittedly p rough) demos up on bandcamp.

yeah that aspect of it is great and makes even the worst tours still feel p special, at least in hindsight. def got lots of great stories out of the few tours we did. that said, we had a pretty volatile band chemistry at times so we didn’t tend to get along for a whole tour lmao.

 

I don't know about Lyft - because I've only used it 3 or 4 times - but didn't Uber add a Tip function to the app *years* ago? I know when it first came out, there was no tip function via the app, but I always tipped in cash. Then a few years ago, as soon as the ride was over, I'd immediately get a notification from Uber asking what I wanted the tip to be.

What kind of heathen isn't tipping their driver?

 

Definitely agree about tipping for pickup orders. I used to only tip a couple bucks prior to the pandemic for takeaway, but do 18%-20% now.

 

It used to be 60% of people... I'm curious to see an updated study, since this was from just a couple months after Uber added tips.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...r-riders-tip-less-lessons-million-uber-trips/

 

I started driving in early 2017 and both services had the option to leave a tip at that time and afaik already had for a while at that point

 

Thanks, I'm gonna give both a listen!

 

everyone should listen to Mineral Girls and Problem Addict !!!

 

That happened when I saw Rage at the Coliseum. About 15 feet from the front, when the lights when down the seated area BUM RUSHED the floor. It was legit really scary. Then Rage started and about three songs in I had been on the floor twice and picked five people up. It was an actually terrifying experience. And I guess since I didn't die, a pretty awesome one-off in retrospect.

RUN DMC and The Crystal Method was worth the price of admission.

I wound up there a lot, since my friends' bands played and hung out there. I don't think I saw a show I actually loved there.

I was more a fan of the ramshackle Ground Zero. Horrible venue, but a lot of fun.

 

Just chiming in that I definitely remember it being a thing that you “didn’t have to tip” Uber drivers or whatever. It was like one of the selling points or whatever

 

i remember it more being "tipping is optional! you aren't forced too like cabs!" but I still did because it's the right thing to do, obviously

 

I feel like I was even told by a few Uber drivers that they “couldn’t” take tips or whatever.
I also haven’t done many rideshares even before the pandemic