Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (J.J. Abrams, December 20, 2019) Movie • Page 128

We already know he's willing to kill "his own" so I wouldn't take that as a sign he's turning away from evil, if that is a Knight of Ren, of course.

 

Sometimes I go back and forth on where Anakin stood at the end of ROTJ. The title of the movie would certainly indicate he completely came back. But sometimes I wonder if it was just a moment of clarity that he was about to watch his son die begging for his life, and Vader couldn’t do it. So he grabs the emperor and throws him to save Luke, but not necessarily come back to other side.

 

It is just a brief moment while living, but I think the fact that his force ghost was there at the end is enough to show that he completely changed sides.

 

Why I put "who knows man"

 

Oh, for sure, I was just adding onto that :)

 

That is true. Definitely would agree that’s a clear indicator I suppose. But I kinda like the idea that Vader’s spirit may not have completely been cleansed at that point when he died.

 

I'm guessing there's some canon somewhere that explains how and/or who is "allowed" to come back as a force ghost, but I have no clue, haha

 

As a stickler for Force Ghosts and who’s allowed to be one and the philosophy behind it all I’d be super okay if dark side users’ “souls” or ghosts are attached to an object or place almost if they are trapped to the physical world. Their attachment to the physical world in literal form. But conversely they can’t become one with the Force like Force Ghosts can. So if Vaders spirit is trapped in his helmet or Palpatines spirit is trapped inside the Death Star Id be totally down for that.

 

Not here for Kylo getting redeemed. I want full mega heel Kylo. I want Knights of Ren Kylo. I want destroy at all cost full of rage Kylo. I want Kylo to win.

 

Force Ghosts can shoot lighting from the sky now, are they going to help in final battle for Ep 9?

 

I don't think they're used in a Pokemon kind of way.

 

Qui-Gon Jinn, I choose you!!!!

 

If Force Ghosts are ever used in battle or any sort of violent way I’d be super bummed

 

Yeah, even Luke's force projection against the most evil dude in the galaxy was 100% passive.

 

Yeah it feels like they should only really be a guiding "force" and used for knowledge.

 

Ditto. After seeing Yoda do that in TLJ though I have to shut off the part of my brain that asks:

If the universe is at stake, why aren't the rebels sitting back and letting force ghosts shoot lighting at the first order and sending droids alone in ships to light speed through enemy ships.

Sorry, didn't mean to bring up more negative things about TJL.

 

I don't think it's a negative to bring up the idea of these loose threads in your mind. Now, if you said it's a shit movie because of these minor loose threads? Sure, that's negative, haha

 

You good. The thing is the Force is beyond morality. It doesn’t judge what’s right and wrong and doesn’t choose sides

 

I've brought it up once or twice, but I still am pretty sure her lightsaber is white. Has it been confirmed anywhere yet? I know super bright blue can look white in some ways, but I swear that thing is pure white.

That would be pretty cool and fit her wardrobe, as well as be unique to her in the main saga, right?

 

Unique to her in the movies but not in the overall universe (Ahsoka has two white sabers)

 

Looks blue to me. Haven’t seen or heard anything official indicating any different.

 

Dude that would be super cool! I never thought about it.

 

I agree but I’ve seen a lot of pictures where it is definitely blue. But definitely so bright that it’s moooore white

 

Second response. You’re definitely not the only one that thinks they’re white. Seeing some articles now. Idk. I’ll go back and rewatch I guess.

 

Like your avatar, that definitely looks white with sand blowing around it and not blue, haha