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Representation in Art/Entertainment/Media • Page 21

Discussion in 'Entertainment Forum' started by Tim, Mar 8, 2016.

  1. iCarly Rae Jepsen

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  3. Tim

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    Stumbled upon this video with a few Muslim creators (including Marvel editor Sana Amanat), talking about the pressures of creating from that perspective.
     
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    This Watch Dogs 2 Cosplay Is Crazy Accurate - IGN
     
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    "As we’ve written before, studios have no problem hiring men with no experience or promoting men from low budget films to the big leagues. It’s not about risk: It’s about gender. This is about male privilege and the belief that untested men can handle films better than women with experience."

    This is the complete opposite of what Kathleen Kennedy said. Not exaggerating. That statement is a 180 turn from the situation with Lucasfilm and doesn't belong in the article.

    The author is merely trying to get people to disregard what Kathleen said and sink an alternative cause into their heads so that they can just become frustrated and therefor read more articles of that blog.

    I can't stand articles like this. The entitlement of the author and their perceived "inside" knowledge into the kind of the person they are criticizing is unreal and should be regarded no higher than trash.
     
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  10. Tim

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    People with genuine inside knowledge have time and time again spoken out on the double standard that women have to deal with in Hollywood.

    Your stance on this author's motivation is total trash. No one likes being angry at the status quo. It's completely exhausting to continually see issues in society, call them out, see minimal change and lots of lip service, and suffer through various anonymous, venomous internet trolls. There's a reason why the expression is, "Ignorance is bliss."

    The fact of the matter is, there are many examples of men with little to no experience getting to helm big films, while very few women are given the same opportunities. But, studios largely don't care about that. Even Lucasfilm, with its "let's find experienced women!" mantra, hired Josh Trank off of one small film (then dropped him when his second film imploded).

    What I don't get is why you're so dang set at pretending the issue doesn't exist. It really doesn't affect you at all. You can be a Star Wars fan and still be critical of them. I'm a massive Marvel fan and still critical of them in this regard. It's alright to admit that Hollywood has a sexism problem.
     
  11. jellyfishfossil

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    Never did I said that the issue doesn't exist. The matter is that the issue isn't a factor in Lucasfilm as Kathleen specifically stated the cause. Josh Trank had a successful movie that Lucasfilm could trust him with but proving that he wasn't as professional as they desired, they dropped him. That further more pushes what Kathleen said in the scope of Lucasfilm wanting people who can prove themselves with previous experience.

    Not everything is a conspiracy. I know that the status quo of hollywood is that women can't succeed but that isn't true for all companies in the business and it's insulting to insinuate that by pushing the author pushing their beliefs over Kathleen's statement. It's simple manipulation to the readers.
     
  12. Nathan

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    Kennedy's own words, from the Variety piece:

    Nothing is being misrepresented. Her insistence on finding the right situation for a female director to succeed is horseshit. They hired Colin Trevorrow, clearly the quality of their final product is not a huge concern. They don't want to hand the movie to an inexperienced female director because they buy into the garbage notion that that would be a riskier financial proposition. So they go with the guy who made a billion dollars with a terrible movie. Kennedy can talk about diversifying behind the camera all she wants, but they've hired seven white guys to make these movies so far. Until we see something else, there's no reason to be placated by her words.
     
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  13. Davjs

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    Didn't he do Jurassic World, a gigantic studio film?
     
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  14. Nathan

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    Yes, a terrible studio film.
     
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    Movie was awesome. Sorry you didn't like it.

    Never saw Safety not Guaranteed, but yeah it seemed so weird at the time that Universal would give the Jurassic franchise to him. That's quite a jump.

    His comment is so dumb. I don't even know what to say.
     
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  17. DarkHotline

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    JW was a regurgitated Jurassic Park with better CGI.
     
  18. Nathan

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  19. Davjs

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    yep, just like force awakens! A super fun film with all the moments (most) of us wanted. Excited for both the sequels. Those should be different.
     
  20. Malatesta

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    JW is literally one of the worst movies i've ever seen. not being hyperbolic. it was cringey, predictable, and overly terrible with its treatment of female characters (one in particular literally being thrown around to her death kind of summed up how she was treated previously throughout the movie). i would have been better off not seeing it. it did nothing for me and it was the first Jurassic movie i've seen. guys have urged me to watch the first JP but i really don't care at all. plenty of better movies probably worth my time.
     
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  22. Tim

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    Your response to these criticisms is, "Not everything is a conspiracy," but then you continue to paint an image of those who write about these criticisms as if they're part of a conspiracy.

    There's not a conspiracy. Studios just don't care enough to put the very minimal effort into recruiting up-and-coming female directors with as much experience as these men that keep getting hired, but they keep paying lip service to the desire for change because it's good marketing, especially when they keep getting asked why nothing has changed yet. It's all very easy to recognize and understand.
     
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  23. Malatesta

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    wasn't it also basically a big ass commercial?
     
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  24. Nathan

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    I'm so bummed that movie was an introduction to the franchise for so many kids and younger people. It possesses none of the joy and marvel of the first film, none of the humaneness and thematic resonance, none of the top tier, stunning technical filmmaking. It's the only movie out of any of the sequels worth seeing but I completely understand being turned off by JW. It's a disgusting, abhorrent film, on top of an atrociously written and crafted one.
     
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  25. iCarly Rae Jepsen

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    aren't all studio films basically? Not that they can't be good but I know they're trying to sell me BB-8 toys