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Marvel Cinematic Universe Movie • Page 313

Discussion in 'Entertainment Forum' started by Melody Bot, Jan 11, 2016.

  1. justin.

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    Yeah, but Strange was in 4 other films between Strange 1 and Strange 2. 3 years after Shang-Chi’s film….nothing and no word on a future appearance. The soonest will be Kang Dynasty which is a full 5 years between appearances.
     
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  2. Penlab

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    Okay, what about the Guardians? Three years between Vol. 1 and 2 and they didn't make any appearances in other films. Is that a better analogy?

    I mean, we know Shang-Chi 2 is being made, just not when it's coming out. With all the production changes, who knows, maybe it'll be released before Kang Dynasty instead of after. Unless the story relies upon Kang Dynasty for some reason.

    But that doesn't mean he won't appear in another film before then. They don't have to tell us these things and usually don't. I mean, one of Strange's appearances was in a Thor film, which also had Hulk.

    My point is just that two years (not three) is not a lot of time.
     
  3. oakhurst

    Trusted Supporter

    At this point we probably won’t see Shang-Chi until 2026 in Kang Dynasty. Which would be a 5 year gap for a character isn’t well known.
     
  4. Penlab

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    As I said above, we don't know that. Even if Shang-Chi 2 doesn't come out until after Dynasty, that doesn't prevent the character from showing up somewhere else.

    Nothing in Phase 6 has been announced besides the Avengers films.
     
  5. digitalsea

    hate my favorite band

    Fantastic Four is the beginning of Phase 6 technically and I highly doubt we’re only getting one movie in that phase before two Avengers movies close out the whole saga. Every film in Phase 6 currently has a May release date, so Shang-Chi could easily fit into the fall or winter of one of those years.

    Also I’m pretty sure we weren’t even supposed to find out about half these releases because Marvel wasn’t ready, but Chapek is an idiot and forced their hand. So most of their plans have probably changed for internal reasons and because Iger is in control again.
     
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  6. Penlab

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    Thinking more on this, I also think what bothers me about this whole conversation is the inconsistency in what people want.

    People want more self-contained, personal stories, but they also want characters to show up often so they don't get forgotten, but they also want the MCU spread out production-wise so that everyone's not overworked, but they also want new stories for their favorite characters every other year, but they also want new characters and new everything, but the MCU is overexpanding and they should just reboot the whole thing and start from scratch.

    The funny thing is I'm not even saying this is all mutually exclusive. Captain America: Civil War is a great example of a story that felt very personal to the character and his world while also including a bunch of other Avengers and keeping them in the loop. Thor: Ragnarok did the same, arguably.

    But I also don't think it's asking too much to be patient with some things. Not every movie can be written to service a bunch of characters only tangentially related to the star, and not every story should be written to cater that way. And when all of these stories are supposed to service an overarching goal, that means that some characters are going to go in and out of the spotlight. But that doesn't mean they'll never shine again.

    Isn't enough to know that we're getting a Shang-Chi 2 even if it's going to be a little while?
     
  7. digitalsea

    hate my favorite band

    There’s no winning. MCU is getting a soft reboot after Secret Wars and the complaints are just gonna be that it needed to be a hard reboot so it’s not good enough or that it’s stupid they’re doing any kind of reboot at all.

    I’m just going to keep enjoying everything they release and let them do what they think is best even if it takes awhile.
     
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  8. JoshIsMediocre

    oklahoma's #1 dodge hornet guy Moderator

    I guess when most of the initial setting up of the MCU was happening I wasn’t paying as much attention to it, most of the movies I’d watch after they’d been out for a couple of weeks.

    So I wasn’t thinking about how long it was between appearances. These last few movies have seemed heavy (obviously after Endgame) on the “introduce new characters that we’ll see later down the line” thing, ESPECIALLY the post-credit teases.

    as usual most of my discontent is my own fault
     
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  9. Penlab

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    To be fair, Phase 4 and 5 have really upped the "teasing things down the line" quotient. I feel like in the first three phases, post-credits usually teased something for the next movie, but now there's a lot more table setting for future events.

    I mean, we still don't know where Vision fucked off to at the end of WandaVision, and that was the start of Phase 4. So I get it. There's a lot more moving parts now, and unfortunately even those moving parts are in flux with releases being swapped and delayed, so it's harder to keep track of everything.

    Then again, we're finally getting payoff to the Leader in NWO and that's a plot thread that's been dangling since 2008, so I think you just have to accept that some things are going to have to come in due time.
     
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  10. oakhurst

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    I would just prefer the MCU handle the storytelling it did in the first 3 phases when it comes to the quantity of content. I felt the pacing and flow of stories were much better when it was only 2-3 a year that had all the characters we needed in a consistent basis.

    Take Tony Stark or Steven Rogers for example. They were the faces of the MCU and we never went even 2 years without them not showing up in someway. It made the story feel more coherent.

    The whole watch these Disney shows about supporting characters who you may not even see again for years dampens my excitement. I know some people want as much content as possible, but for me it’s become stale. I’m hoping the rest of phase 5 and 6 feel more coherent and we see familiar faces more often.
     
  11. Tim

    grateful all the fucking time Supporter

    None of this matters if the individual movies are fun and interesting, imo. If the focus is on if the overarching direction, then the individual movies aren’t interesting enough.
     
  12. slimfenix182

    FUCKIN SAVAGES IN THAT FUCKIN BOX Prestigious

    I loved Loki season 1 and I haven't even had an urge to start season 2 yet. Def feeling some Marvel burn out at this point
     
  13. digitalsea

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    I think I’m enjoying season 2 even more than I did 1, if that persuades you at all
     
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  14. slimfenix182

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    Oh I'll definitely get to it eventually, I see the Loki thread has said plenty good about it too
     
  15. MidDave

    I'm Sleepy Supporter

    Enjoying it a bunch
     
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  16. justin.

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    A lot of us have enjoyed the individual movies/shows of these characters and that’s why we want the overarching destination to arrive. It’s the only way we’re going to see some of these characters (Shang-Chi, Kate Bishop, Marc) again and within a short period of time.
     
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  17. oakhurst

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    Probably just means the “scarlet witch” persona is dead because no way is Wanda not appearing in more films

     
  18. Penlab

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    People are stupid. It's not like they're going to print "she's alive" in an official piece of merchandise before actually revealing it in a film or show.

    Like, just because it should be obvious doesn't make it not a spoiler, you yahoos.
     
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  19. oakhurst

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    It’s true they wouldn’t spoil it, but I think if there wasn’t some credence to it then they simply wouldn’t have said anything. They would have just left it ambiguous.
     
  20. Penlab

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  21. JoshIsMediocre

    oklahoma's #1 dodge hornet guy Moderator

     
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  22. phaynes12

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    ehh, after some of elizabeth olsen's comments i wouldn't be surprised if she's done done
     
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  23. MidDave

    I'm Sleepy Supporter

     
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  24. oakhurst

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    She sounded more like the wanted a break instead of just quitting the role. I’d be surprised if they didn’t have the character appear with Olsen returning, especially once the x-men become central characters.

    The marvel checks also probably look really nice after not being in a marvel film for a few years, which looks to be the case for Wanda.
     
  25. Tim

    grateful all the fucking time Supporter

    X-Men-centric stories aren’t exactly historically Wanda’s best, lol. But, if Olsen decides to do a couple more after a break, I wouldn’t mind just one movie where Wanda & Lorna can be cute sisters together.

    (I do also think it’s possible that they do a silly “no more mutants” reference in Secret Wars, where she says “no, more mutants” and opens portals Endgame-style for a bunch of Fox characters, lol. Cue the 90s X-Men theme and roaring applause from midnight audiences. Dunno how I landed on this very specific dumb prediction, but I’m sticking to it.)
     
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