Hip-Hop Thread Genre • Page 844

Fair and agreed. But omgg are there white LGBT folks who believe that makes them beyond reproach when their queerness intersects with race. Racism and white chauvinism is all the same to Black and POC LGBT whether from whites LGBT or the traights..

 

as white queer, it definitely makes me feel uncomfortable to take up space in a conversation that isn’t for me. it’s not my place to bring up toxic traits in the hip hop community. the queer black community can use their voice and I will definitely stand aside and listen learn from their analysis of his life

he was a complicated man and it’s hard to unpack that in a short span

 

The stuff he said also wasn’t very out of the ordinary in rap music at that time (which in turn had a multitude of reasons, which is why just judging individual participants without knowing about the broader culture is a little shortsighted). The songs on which he said those just just happened to become huge hits. Not that that excuses it, but I think a little context is nevertheless helpful.

 

This is genuinely one of the most important things I’ve learned as a straight white man, raised by a black man and growing up with a half black family. I can call those hateful lyrics what they are on the surface. But I can’t even comprehend, relate to, or fully understand what it’s like to see someone of X’s background and lifestyle make it in a major industry. It means more to so many than it does to me, just a plain white fan. That era of rap is full of many rappers who opened a window into the reality of black culture and living in America, and the struggles and ideals that went with it.

 

Sounds like you should talk about this with your therapist, Tony.

 

Yeah Melfi def seems to be the one with the answers on this subject.

 

Seen him live in fucking Reading PA a few years ago.

Scariest show I’ve ever been to lmao.

RIP

 

You’re not wrong on the facts, though the president regardless of background is elected to represent and make decisions for our entire country. His responsibility and influence is far greater than DMX’s is.

Obama’s recognition and significance as a black man becoming president stand on their own merits apart from his political choices. I dislike and am against our government entirely in how we have handled immigration, war, poverty and many more subjects. Much like me being able to say that I disapprove of lyrics that he once used in his career. Though, I will never be able to take away from or criticize the connection and positive influences from either made in black communities.


It’s hard for me to really decipher where a line should be drawn and don’t think I’m even in a position where I get to decide that outside of my own personal thoughts.

 

I'm really into this new Brockhampton album

 

In the course of your discussion you guys diluted that tweet. It was about people celebrating his death, not criticizing him. Big difference.

 

I'm not going to lie, I came on this site dreading reading "he had homophobic lyrics, fuck him" posts but I'm really glad there's been so much more nuance

 

DMX’s first two albums came out when I was in middle school and they ruled the school. I never got into anything after those but they were bangers.

 

Someone said in the comments he was like the rap Bill Murray due to him turning up everywhere.

 

Yup, he showed up in Buffalo a while back randomly in the kitchen of IHOP making omlettes. Incredible

 

Him rapping Rudolph came up on my feed yesterday and it took me back.

 

Black Rob Shares Tribute to DMX From Hospital Bed, Fans Worry About Rapper’s Condition

 

There’s like a lore around here that DMX once ate at the Waffle House a few minutes down the road from where I live, haha. Ive always thought about him every time I drive by it for the past 10-15 years.

 

DMX Turned Agony and Atomic Energy Into One of Rap’s Most Titanic Legacies

By Jeff Weiss. Very good. It also worth a read for people that are quick to judge him.

 

Also Irv Gotti is a legend:

"Irv Gotti landed an A&R job at Def Jam, where he screamed to anyone who would listen that they needed to sign DMX before quitting, telling president Lyor Cohen that he’d rather “be on the streets than work at such a “wack label.”