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He really fucking sucks.

 

Andrew Yang is garbage

 

Iran's president says Trump White House 'afflicted by mental retardation'

We’re gonna go to war because of name-calling.

 

Beto is part of the 1% group now lol

 

Hmm weird I've been told that all candidates support Medicare for All? If that's true why would a presumably intelligent and knowledgeable Obama official tell a bunch of people who stand to lose money if it passes that Bernie is the only one who really supports it???? Shocking!!!! Could it be that the rest of them don't *actually* want Medicare for All? But...I've been told so many times that that's wrong!

 

tweeted something negative about biden and needle drop idiot somehow (?) found it and retweeted it and now my life is hell

 

that guy is annoying af

 

Biden 34 and Bernie 27 is giving me some energy

 

Gravel 1% waddup

 

I think people have been telling you that all the candidates support true universal care, not that they all support a single payer system that is so robust it doesn’t exist anywhere else in the world, and eliminating private insurance all together.

 

There is one thing that Medicare For All means: the Medicare For All bill that Sanders floored that is cosponsored by Warren, Harris, Gillibrand, etc. Do those people support that bill, actually? Is that what they actually want to pass? Stephanie Cutter doesn't seem to think so. They definitely are claiming to support it, though, because they cosponsor it!

 

His name is Ronald McDonald

 

And socialism means government control of the means of production but obviously that's not true anymore lol. Medicare For All at this point has become a stand in for universal health care of some sort (i.e. a public option) for the large majority of people in the country.

I don't think so either. I think they understand there's no way in hell that bill would ever become law as written, even under a President Sanders. I think Sanders understands that too, but he's doing it to start from a position of strength so that when it is inevitably negotiated in Congress, it doesn't end up without a public health care option of some sort. I think Harris kind of got close to saying she supports the bill as is when she said that the hope would be that eventually private insurance would die out when forced to compete with the govt, but that's a lot different than legally ending private insurance obviously.

 

I think that ideally that is the plan they would like to see, and if ever given the chance to get it implemented they would do it; which is why they co sponsored it. But I also think they realized that it has no chance of passing which is why they have also supported other ideas like starting with a public option.

 

Oh fuck

 

I'd much rather have the Biden ads than the insane right wing conspiracy and Trump ones haha

 

At least I haven't seen a Yang ad yet.