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I don't like this line of thinking. You can't fold your cards before even playing your hands or else you have nothing to negotiate with. Medicare 4 All or Bust. This is why it's a movement or a revolution, "NotMeUs" because it will take all of us to get it done. It will take voting them out of Senate if they refuse.

 

... I mean, if Bernie wins and we still don't control the senate, he's not going to put M4A off for another two years.

 

same energy

 

so Biden is all in on SC, is he even trying in Nevada?

 

its both the political realty of the situation AND the fact that the bill as is is completely unworkable. There are tons of countries out there that have figured out a single payer health care system effectively and none of them come anywhere close to being as generous as the M4A bill is. It’s why all those other counties have some sort of private insurance available as well.

I’m just already cringing at the backlash in the 2022 midterms from Bernie’s base if/when he signs a health care bill that isn’t his M4A, which is by far the odds on favorite things to happen if he wins (besides nothing at all happening, which is a stark reality with the filibuster still in place)

 

Some ad spending, not much. He has to win SC.

 

We haven’t had public polls in NV in a month but he was coming in 1st 2nd or 3rd in all of them. Seems silly to completely abandon it unless they have more recent internals saying worse

 

every fucking time

blacks rule!

 

lol imagine knowing and working for Trump ... and still writing this

 

Amy really did see a boost. Geez.

 

Is she talking about “other countries” that....all have universal healthcare?

 

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How the mighty have fallen

 

Man, some weird stuff in these exit polls. I wonder when we'll get more data.

Pete did better with first time voters ... which ... is weird af.

 

Is it because he's young? I honestly can't see any other reason.

 

hE's NoT a CaReEr PoLiTiCiAn

 

Anything to avoid saying his name, I guess.

 

Dunno. Just expected Bernie to clean up there. But it's 27%/25% first time voters in the exits.

Basically, part of my worry about November is specific states and counties that Trump needs to win where I think he's still specifically strong and poised to win. Which means to counter, I want to see new voters coming out, young, independents, and people that usually wouldn't vote ... because that makes me think we can win some of these places and not end up with another "wins popular vote, loses EC" kind of thing. It's only two states and I'm looking at exit polls, so, it's not great data. But I'm trying to find confidence for the general. At the moment, I'm telling myself we're going to see massive turnout because a lot of people are just waiting for the primary to be over and then will vote against Trump and don't care who wins. But if Trump can depress turnout again, in specific states, and specific demos, he's got a good shot to win and I hate it.

 

This would be really funny if it wasn't so awful.