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Bipartisan vote to remove, partisan vote to acquit. Pretty hilarious all-in-all. Trump's gotta be fucking pissed. Now to actually remove him we need to get through an insanely grueling next few months and then let the party install Tammy Baldwin as our savior. Easy peasy.

 

It's all going according to Tammy's plan.

 

First bipartisan vote to remove a president in history if memory serves

 

Tulsi pretty pissed she didn't think of it as she collects a few extra donor dollars from thirsty MAGA dorks.

 

Day 1 Headline: President Baldwin Issues Blanket Pardon To Donald Trump In An Effort To Help The Country Heal

 

But people are gonna be able to get behind Joe Biden or Bernie Sanders after a brokered convention?

I definitely think there are people out there who wouldn't support Biden *or* Baldwin if Sanders doesn't get the nod. And there are people out there who wouldn't support Sanders *or* Baldwin if Biden doesn't get the nod.

But I don't see a lot of people who would go "Sure I'd suck it up and vote for Biden to stop Trump" who wouldn't also vote Baldwin for the same reasons. Where as I do think there are people out there who would go "Well at least she isn't Biden and has some of Sanders policies in her platform so lets do this"

So if you're looking at "Which of these candidates can get the most people to come out and support them"...

 

When you forget to learn the new talking points

 

Gonna write Tammy Baldwin in when I vote in the NJ primary

 

1) Yes. 2) Definitely more than rando #9 because we've already seen the second place preference polls and votes. 3) Irrelevant to your usage of the word "compromise."

True, there are, but that's not the question. It's if more of them exist than a rando. We've seen the data that shows lots of Bernie and Warren and Biden people have each other as their second pick.

Me. I won't vote for Baldwin if they install her. Fuck that shit. And I think there's millions of us.

The answer would literally be: any of the top four and then the rest of those that ran before we ever think of getting to Tammy Baldwin.

 

He's scared

 

When did Joe become a Bernie campaign surrogate

 

I will now forever find it funny that Joe Manchin and Mitt Romney had more of a spine than Tulsi Gabbard in voting to impeach.

 

I’d seriously become a Republican if the DNC installed a candidate at the last minute who never even ran. I could not be more pissed off than that.

 

This is all ignoring the fact that in the general there will be ~150 million voters, most of whom have no ideological political commitment whatsoever, whose primary thought upon seeing Baldwin or any other non-candidate with a D next to their name would be that they are the person who stole the Dem primary. This scenario is so far beyond simply each campaign refusing to back the other, it’s about the perception that it creates for the general public who could not give less of a shit about the current riff within the party

 

funny seeing the senate floor so full

 

Why wouldn't the dnc want Pete or Joe who are the dumb jellyfish they crave

 

Goldman bets Bernie wouldn't be able to get anything done through Congress.

 

More Iowa numbers!

Still nothing has changed.

 

We've also seen polls that show large number of Biden and Sanders voters being unwilling to commit to voting for the eventual winner. The ones who have them as their second pick I'm not worried about. Its the ones that'll stay home if Biden or Sanders gets the nomination.

If everyone on the thread would rather have Biden get the nom than Baldwin then maybe my assumptions are wrong. I just find it weird that people would rather have Joe Biden as our nominee than one of the stronger progressive voices in the senate.

 

Meet me in the middle
C'mon let's make up a dance
We'll agree to call it The Compromise

Step one:
Find a Baldwin
Grab a pen
Don't you dare ask questions
Give her the nomination

Step two:
Throw Joe Biden behind a desk
Where he'll do absolutely nothing
So it's your job to dance and smile
The whole time

 

And if you think the 'stay at home' number from that scenario is more than a rando coming in at the 11th hour, I think you're insane and have no need to keep having this conversation.