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why do you even get your hopes up about these things anymore

 

well that was both underwhelming but also pretty much what I expected. guess they just wanted to get something on the record to hopefully calm down some of the rapant attacks?

 

twitter is so weird

 

Yeah, this is what was expected. Basically just a very formal "fuck you" to Donald Trump that they'll unseal and let the public see, rather than him teasing it for further political gain.

 

But, of course, what we see will hardly be enlightening. I mean, why would it. It's an ongoing investigation into potential criminal activity. And that is what really gets me about Republicans. I mean, let's take someone like Bernie Sanders, who is about as close as we can get to a consensus here of a "decent politician." If the FBI raided his house, I think most liberals would take it very seriously and wonder what in the actual fuck he did, rather than further proclaiming him god of everything.

 

I don’t trust the FBI at all, but if they do anything with a public official through legal channels, publicly, they probably have a lot of evidence in their favor.

Again, if they were really weaponized just to fuck with political opponents, we’d never hear about it. Trump would be assassinated and they’d pin it on some patsy, like how they killed MLK Jr. This couldn’t be further from that.

 

Even if it occurred during Trump's presidency and was signed off by people that were appointed by Trump? I think a lot of liberals would be pretty skeptical.

 

My long running theory is that a lot of the stuff Trump does is because he ends up believing his weird conspiracy version of what other people are doing. That he ends up taking some classified documents, bringing them to his hotel, showing them to people, and all that, tracks with a "but Hillary did ___ so why can't I do ___" brain process of a toddler.

I could see him totally just taking a bunch of classified shit thinking "everyone does it" because he's convinced himself that's the truth.

 

I also want these to be about aliens or who killed JFK. He's just walking around with ET proof in his pocket.

 

Going to be one hell of a winter!

 

You clearly see this in the whole "This is Biden weaponizing the DOJ" behavior.

Trump treated the DOJ like his personal army and acted like the AG was his lawyer. So he projects that behavior onto the Biden administration.

 

Yeah, I see your point, but I think it would be a more guarded, quiet skepticism, rather than further elevation of the martyred saint.

 

sigh

 

im not totally convinced that’s not what it is. Like he took some official documents that are about some long standing mystery or conspiracy in the country’s history because he thought it’d be “cool” to have and like a dumbass didn’t think the US govt would notice or care

 

Trump's post leads more evidence to my theory.

 

Louisiana child kicked out of class because parents are same-sex couple | Louisiana | The Guardian

I'm sure the "schools don't need to teach kids about sexuality" crowd is going to be very upset to hear this school is teaching 5 year olds about marriage... right?

 

lmfao I don't want to know what he's referencing but how funny would it be if it's just the shit that's going in the Obama library?

 

There was some tweet probably in this thread that boiled down a lot of conservative thought to this very illogical concept. If you call out a Republican politician for doing something bad, it doesn't matter, because its something everyone does all the time. They want to keep doing bad things and they rationalize it by saying "everyone does it, so it isn't bad if I do it too".

The examples were not wearing masks and eating healthier options, things they get angry at other people for doing even if it doesn't impact them directly, because indirectly they feel like it makes them look bad. The whole tribal hypocrisy really comes down to making excuses for rude, and in some cases criminal behavior to minimize personal responsibility. And it just keeps spiraling into worse and worse shit.

 

Pretty much exactly what it is:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/08/11/fox-trump-maralago-search-obama/

As was reported back in late 2016, the Obama team was transferring the records to Chicago through the National Archives, which legally owns the documents once a president leaves office. Once the documents ultimately reached a warehouse in Chicago, the Obama Foundation was then due to pay the National Archives and Record Administration to digitize the documents. The lengthiness of that process aside, there isn’t the faintest hint of legal violations — nor does the Post’s story suggest as much.

The faintest hint of evidence, of course, is currently surplus to requirements on many portions of the right. Hannity stated conspiratorially that “they shipped 30 million pages of sensitive and possibly classified materials to Chicago,” without noting that the “they” included the National Archives.

The implication is that perhaps Obama, too, is surreptitiously obscuring his sensitive documents — but without being searched. But there’s no evidence he has hidden anything from the Archives or that he didn’t go through the processes required to share and protect those documents once they leave Washington.