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Easy way to fundraise.

 

Federal government and state government gonna help me buy an EV next year

 

interesting to see what the tax credits are for solar. I got a 30% tax credit, but it started sunsetting last year. Wonder if it goes back up to 30%, or higher, or lower, or what

 

Would you be able to combine them both? I know sometimes with shit like that you can and sometimes you can't

 

Government should provide free e-bikes for all

 

Means testing can fuck off

 

Need that EV tax credit so I can never afford to buy a Rivian like I want lol

 

Sigh. I guess we have to say better than nothing all the time but I just can’t be excited anymore with half ass climate bills.

 

I was wondering if the tax credit could apply to e-bikes but I"m guessing not

 

All new construction should be built with solar roofs

 

I was wondering the same thing. if I am reading correctly, the federal government is a tax credit and the state thing says it is $25 in incentives per mile of electric range for a total of up to $4,000. Idk seems like different things so I don't see why both wouldn't be able to be applied? Guess I would have to wait and see

 

I get your point, but on the other hand the expectation was set that nothing would get done this year because of Manchin. So if something gets done I'd take it as a win. I've just been operating of the mindset the dems don't actually have a majority in the senate with manchin and sinema there to give realistic expectations, so I can be excited if the largest climate investment ever actually happens even if it isn't enough.

As always though, if it does pass dems should make it clear that the work isn't nearly done

 

Might be an unpopular opinion, but I don't think we should be giving any tax credits for EVs. For one, most companies with EVs on the market have waitlists. So these tax credits really just create more demand where there is barely any supply (which ironically given the title of this bill could actually just drive up the base cost of EVs in the short term). While I do sympathize with people who currently have fossil fuel-powered cars at the end of their lifecycle and want their next car to be electric, I get the feeling this will mostly be a tax credit for the rich as even with a $4-7.5k tax credit, the overall cost will still be very expensive for the average American. If we still want to use it for EVs, a better use would be to use that money to help manufacturers scale and speed up production. But even better would be something like this:

An e-bike is way more affordable than an EV and a tax credit can actually make buying one feasible for average-lower income Americans. I've seen this up close with the popularity of the e-bike rebate program in Denver. Or hell, it doesn't even have to be for e-bikes. Give people a credit for buying ANY bike. Our car dependence is terrible for the environment, EV or not. Encouraging more bike ridership will help spur demand for better bike infrastructure.

Which brings us to the third better option for those funds which would be to use it to build out better public transit and multi-modal infrastructure.

 

Too hot for bikes let’s made the roads rivers

 

I get what you are saying but I don't think it should be a "give tax credits to e-bikes instead of EVs". A majority of people drive a car, and you would hope that their next car is an EV or hybrid. That's much more important to focus on I think than e-bikes. An e-bike would be nice but it isn't going to get me to work everyday, an EV will.

One thing I would say about the EV tax credits in this bill, is I hope there is also a lot of money in there to scale up the charging stations and to research and manufacture faster charging batteries. That's the two main issues with EVs right now - not enough places to charge and people don't want to wait for it to charge. Definitely wouldn't buy an all electric for those reasons alone, sign me up for a hybrid though.

 

I would be able to use an e-bike maybe 5 months out of the year?

 

I could realistically use an ebike about 7 months, 8 if you get 30 days of warmth between November and March

 

just bought a plug-in hybrid over this past weekend. I get 50+ mpg on my 30 mile commute to work. Not too bad! Now I just wish my work had a place for me to plug in during the day.

 

Is there a good summary of the overall real risks of Moneypox that both aren't intentionally alarmist or overly dismissive?

Like, from what I've seen despite the rising cases there have only been a handful of deaths all in Africia.

So obviously, there is some concern on what a huge outbreak could look like there. Which isn't good.

But at the lack of US deaths a result of it being a slow killer (so the deaths are coming, they just take time), a result of or hospitalization system being able to handle it (but if the outbreak grows to the point of the hospitals being overloaded... suddenly things get much worse), or a result of it being bad but not deadly? And even if that is the case, what are the long term side effects like?

I'm just wondering how fucked we really are we our if the combination of covid fatigue / poor leadership leads to the inevitable "everyone probably gets this thing at some point"