General Politics Discussion (IX) [ARCHIVED] • Page 1479

So begs the question, which times were good according to GOP...A. The start of the great recession, or C. the start of the global pandemic? Because we all know it aint option B for them

 

Considering that wealth inequality ended up increasing in the aftermath of both A and C, I'd have to assume that both were indeed quite joyous occasions for them

 

Kid and I are sick. Covid scare number lost count at this point. Either way bring back the masks please this sucks.

 

Ugh. Yeah I'm on edge every day right now, hoping none of us pick it up in our respective schools. We had a scare right before easter when he had a positive on a rapid at school, but we tested him like 6 times in the ensuing days, including two PCRs, and all came back negative. So we think it was a false positive on the rapid.

But just being in school every day, watching as our numbers for the district this past week jumped back up to where they were at the tail end of the omicron wave, and seeing our state at 400+ cases a day again and test positivity up to 13% and etc....I'm just dreading it right now.

Just wanna make it to the summer time without any of us catching this shit and then I'll decide from there what to do with boosters. ANd of course hoping for a vaccine for my son.

 

We're not going to go back to mask mandates ever in my opinion, in fact we're going to go the other way. It won't be long before self isolation isn't even recommended or required. I was just in Scotland that's how it is there. If you test positive, or even feel sick, it's recommended you stay home, but there is no required self isolation terms anymore and there's no mass testing and no more usage of the test and trace app etc. It was difficult to get a test anywhere there as I needed one to come home, and the only place to do it was at the airport with an advance appointment. I also connected through Amsterdam, where they said repeatedly on announcements that masks were required but maybe 20% tops were wearing masks with no one getting told off for it, and barely any of the employees were wearing a mask anyway. It was purely 'let's say you have to, but we don't really care at all'.

All this to say, it's going to be a long road ahead for the vulnerable and the nervous, as globally restrictions are going, and I can't possibly see how in the political climate we live in, that reversals will be made without a significant (and i'm thinking HUGE) change in how the virus behaves.

 

That’s pretty much what confuses me about this GOP grab, like this country is loaded with guns and violent people. People WILL fight back.

 

Elon Musk says he would reverse Twitter's Trump ban | CNN Business

cool

 

I sympathize with the tweeter but I think the confusion is either a little naive or very annoyingly craven. It falls into this way-too-prevalent genre of doomtweeting where people pretend to not understand painfully obvious things. It's a strained, upset version of "gotcha!" where people use some irony/hypocrisy to highlight depravity, but feign ignorance about the depravity they're highlighting (because that's not cool, I guess?).

Why would the GOP care or be worried about the consequences of their exact plan to make their base angry? The rise in aberrant violence, whether it's motivated by prejudice or not, is just an acceptable cost to them. There's no risk whatsoever of violence against conservative institutions or their power.

 

Round 2 baby let's go

 

hey man freedom of speech this is America

 

No one should be shocked by this but many talking heads will pretend to be. The used car bubble that Carvana is trying to head off will ultimately resemble the 2008 and 202(2? 3?) housing bursts.

On the same day they laid of 2500 workers in one metro area, they closed a $2.2b deal to buy Adesa, a company that primarily operates car auctions.

 

I interviewed for a job with Carvana about a year ago and they didn't hire me so they can rot in hell

 

hell on earth is not using twitter at all and still being exposed to seemingly every shitty matty y tweet in existence

 

living this since i got off there but still browse this forum

 

I gotta say, I’m more sympathetic to this take than I would have ever expected to be.

I don’t care much for the idea of ceding so much ground in the policy debate just to play super-defense, but you can’t say this is a terrible approach to the practical political situation if you’re also actively worried about a wholesale national ban in a few years.

What’s right, what’s possible, and what’s strategically better-albeit-bitter are rarely the same thing.

I don’t like anything about it and it’s pretty clear that Yglesias’s take on medical exemption is glib. But what’s the liberal plan to protect abortion rights? Rally for codifying Roe, get nothing, and direct outrage to conservatives when they nix abortion entirely?

 

And fwiw, this annoying Yglesias take is kinda the only one that’s consistent with the argument based on public opinion polling. People have been throwing around tons of numbers recently, but the “69% support abortion” figure misleadingly obscures the fact that most of that 69% still supports some degree of restrictions.

I don’t know what to do with this information, but I feel like the conversation in the liberal/left bubble has really lost track of the fact that being morally right doesn’t actually help us at all.

If Dem leadership cares at all about the right to safe abortion, they have absolutely been discussing making the symbolic vote (that Schumer alluded to/promised) about something restricted/limited.

 

If we’re talking about codifying Roe federally we’re already talking about allowing regulation of late term abortions. As long as gerrymandering is in place lot of states are going to effectively ban abortions outright, like Michigan and Ohio. Get something passed federally. And then move states to protect abortion rights even more if being a man and focusing on “winning” at the expense of many vulnerable people is your big brain strategy
But maybe Matt Y could just shut up once in a while too idk

 

Would be wild if we end up basically finding a cure for MS as we figure out it’s a long term consequence of a virus, while closing our eyes and covering our ears about covid

 

Love to come to this thread and see someone making the argument that preemptively restricting and limiting abortion is a good thing. And that the loss of those rights and autonomy is simply a “bitter” political pill to swallow as part of a game. Just the best way to spend a Tuesday.