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Discussion in 'Politics Forum' started by Melody Bot, Mar 13, 2015.

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  1. Victor Eremita

    Not here. Isn't happening. Supporter

    What a strange semantical line to draw. I don't see the difference. Is there some legal FBI lingo that dictates calling for an investigation and agreeing to call for an investigation are really that different? Isn't the point the same?
     
  2. tkamB

    God of Wine Prestigious

    Ok.
    No investigation was called because the DOJ pushed back, as the article states "FBI officials wanted to investigate whether there was a criminal conflict of interest...DOJ officials pushed back against opening a case during the meeting earlier this year... [and] declined to open a case on the foundation."
     
  3. Jason Tate Aug 11, 2016
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    I know, I read the piece and quite a few others. The FBI could have actually called for an investigation. They didn't. Three field offices talking about it is not the same thing as actually calling for an investigation — which, IMO, from just about all reading seemed pointless to do, and never actually happened.
     
  4. tkamB

    God of Wine Prestigious

    That isn't the thing for which they would be opening a case, this is:
    FBI received notification from a bank of suspicious activity from a foreigner who had donated to the Clinton Foundation, according to the official.
    The emails are just separately noted by CNN as evidence of the "cozy" relationship between the State Department and the Foundation.
     
  5. KimmyGibbler

    Everywhere you look... Prestigious

    Does anyone trust the DOJ to be impartial in this regard?
     
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  6. clucky

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    When Benghazi is in your list of scandals you've lost any credibility
     
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  7. John

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    I'm pretty sure that's the thing? The third para again:

     
  8. tkamB

    God of Wine Prestigious

    Yes they would be investigating whether there is a criminal conflict of interest, but not based on the emails.
     
  9. tkamB

    God of Wine Prestigious

    FBI officials went to the DOJ to request an investigation into the Foundation, and were denied by the DOJ. If you want to draw this weird distinction then do you.
     
  10. John

    Trusted Prestigious

    I didn't say based on the emails. Glad I'm not going crazy though.
     
  11. tkamB

    God of Wine Prestigious

    My bad then, thought that is what you were implying.
     
  12. John

    Trusted Prestigious

    We're good.
     
  13. Jason Tate Aug 11, 2016
    (Last edited: Aug 11, 2016)
    FBI went to discuss the possibility of opening an investigation, DOJ said there was insufficient evidence to do so. FBI may have still opened an investigation, Comey refuses to say, DOJ has done their own internal investigation and found nothing. Which makes a lot of sense cause it's flimsy as hell.

    Running With Judicial Watch’s Storyline, Media Manufacture Another False Clinton Email Scandal
    Meet Judicial Watch, A Driving Force Behind The Clinton Email Story That Keeps Duping The Press

    PS: I am pretty certain that the FBI doesn't need DOJ "approval" for their own investigations anyway.
    The FBI has the authority to investigate all federal crimes that are not exclusively assigned to other agencies. In most ordinary criminal investigations, the immediate objectives include such matters as: determining whether a federal crime has occurred or is occurring, or if planning or preparation for such a crime is taking place; identifjmg, locating, and apprehending theperpetrators;andobtainingtheevidenceneededforprosecution.
     
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  15. Wasn't this the exact same argument made about the FBI just a month or so ago during the last email investigation hoopla?
     
  16. tkamB

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    First of all, and this is partly my bad because I started using case and investigation interchangeably/incorrectly as well, I blame jetlag, the FBI went to discuss the possibility of opening a case with the DOJ. You're right, the FBI could still be investigating the Foundation on their own accord right now. But again, the emails unearthed by Judicial Watch are not why the FBI wanted to open a case against the Clinton Foundation, it was the suspicious bank activity of a donor. And just for clarification when I said "And the DOJ 'looking into' past allegations and not opening case is not reason to disregard new evidence that three field offices agreed called for an investigation." I was saying the three field offices agreed the new evidence (again, not the emails) called for a further investigation.
     
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  17. What could go wrong?

     
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  18. aranea

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  19. It's bikini (that has a "max" size) or body suit I believe. I didn't look around much about Germany's requirements, just the Olympic ones.
     
  20. Victor Eremita

    Not here. Isn't happening. Supporter

    You didn't read it, did you?
     
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  21. iCarly Rae Jepsen

    run away with me Platinum

     
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  22. Ethicists: Clinton team violated ‘spirit’ of pledge
    A Washington-based spokesman for Chagoury, said in a statement to The New York Times on Wednesday that Chagoury had been seeking to contact someone in the State Department to offer his perspective on the coming elections in Lebanon. He had not been seeking official action by the State Department. He said that no conversation ever took place.
    This is such a non story.
     
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  25. DarkHotline

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