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The guy Trump basically endorsed instead.

 

Trump Syllabus. Basically, there's a lot of stuff here on the rise of this sort of right-wing reaction:

Public Books — Trump Syllabus 2.0

 

lol

 

I like the meme on Twitter of only referring to him as "alleged" billionaire.

 

Me: you shouldn't vote for trump, he us a fascist
Coworker: ya but he's not as fascist as hitler
Me: explodes

 

good meme

 

you have to vote for the lesser of two evils, if you dont youre handing the election to hitler

 

A response to that Owen Jones blog I posted yesterday regarding the Labour Party.

Answers to Owen Jones' Questions for Jeremy Corbyn's Supporters

 

Interesting chart.

 

CNN's Corey Lewandowski problem

In a rosy profile published Tuesday by Variety, “How Jeff Zucker Made CNN Great Again,” the network chief leveled a Trump-worthy cheap shot on two digital upstarts making waves in new media. “I don’t think Vice and BuzzFeed are legitimate news organizations,” Zucker tells Variety. “They are native advertising shops. We crush both of them. They are not even in our same class.”

CNN has indeed enjoyed a reinvigorated election season thanks to a beefed-up politics team that frequently drives discussion online. Incessant coverage of the campaign—countdown clocks and “BREAKING NEWS” chyrons galore—has also led to a ratings bump, particularly with 25-54 age demo that cable advertisers crave.

Still, Zucker’s hit on his network’s digital competitors raised plenty of eyebrows given his simultaneous praise for Corey Lewandowski, Trump’s former campaign manager, who CNN hired as an analyst this summer in a move that drew widespread criticism. Lewandowski led a campaign whose central themes included a blatant disregard for the truth and an open disrespect for a free press. He has a non-disparagement agreement that forbids him from speaking negatively about Trump—if he wanted to, that is—and is still receiving severance payments from the campaign.

“The reason we hired [Lewandowski] is that now that we are in the general election, I think it’s really important to have voices on CNN who are supportive of the Republican nominee,” Zucker tells Variety. “It’s hard to find a lot of those.” [Emphasis ours.]

This would seem to be the textbook definition of false balance: Very few political experts speak favorably of Trump, and yet CNN is stacking the deck to give viewers a veneer of objectivity. To criticisms that Lewandowski is using the cable channel to parrot Trump talking points to hundreds of thousands, if not millions, Zucker replied: “I actually think he’s done a really nice job. He’s come under a much greater spotlight because of who he is, and the relationship he’s had with the media. As a result, people are going to be more critical.”

 

Problem with Owen Jones' letter is, it wasn't in good faith. In fact, it displayed an ignorance of how social movements operates and ignore how he was consistently saying that his leadership had gone off of the rails a month into his tenure as leader of the party. I don't think he is bought off or anything, he simply has a way of conceptualizing how events will unfold and it is likely due to the damage conservative dominance has done to those on the left over the past thirty years.

 

Voters in the Philadelphia suburbs, generally the area that decides which party wins Pennsylvania, prefer Hillary Clinton by 40 points over Donald Trump

 

I just watched the Corbyn/Smith debate. Smith really really loves comparing himself to Nye Bevan, doesn't he? I thought it was overstated, but no.

 

Leadership debate just confirmed that I'll be voting for Corbyn again.

 

Do people actually think change is going to happen in the Republican party? I guess its hard to judge until we see what happens in November. I feel like it will have to if the race ends in a landslide, especially if Dems take control of the House or Senate.

But what happens in four or eight years when someone more polished takes over the same platform that Trump has been pushing, but in a smarter way?

 

I think it is going to attempt to change, fracture and split apart.

 

So what would the end of the Republican Party as we know it mean for Fox News?

 

All of the defaults are awful places to be and even smaller, more innocent subs get polluted very easily. It is a hateful, immature, regressive website. I can think of very few websites I have less faith in or expectations for than reddit. It is the bottom of the barrel.

I have more thoughts about how it was destined to be this way because of demographics, influence from 4chan, hands off admins, and Internet culture in general, but not sure it's worth going into now

 

They'd become libertarians like all relapsed Republicans

 

romney already tried the polished trump platform and failed

 

they'd still have the 40% of the country that responds to his white nationalism as a loyal audience, they'll be fine because their fate isnt dictated by the other 60%