Game of Thrones (HBO) TV Show • Page 24

Lol. Reading some of these theories from people who aren't familiar with R+L=J is pretty funny. Hopefully it will all be put to rest on Sunday.

As for the season finale... I'd be super down with a final scene of either the wall coming down with the White Walkers walking into Westoros or Danny stepping foot in Westeros or seeing Kings Landing. Boom. Roll credits.

 

Cersei is really Jon's mom. No way she would let him marry Danny.

 

Never even thought of that wall coming down...but didn't they use magic to put it up? I could see something similar happen to bring it down.

 

he could still be legitimized as a stark before anyone finds out he's a targaryen. the shows characters might never even know. itd be borderline imposisble to confirm

 

I'm sorry but there is no way he's a targaryen...unless he actually is. I don't fucking know this shit has more twists and turns than a daytime soap opera.

 

The people who could legitimize the Targ claim are all dead (Ned -- don't think anyone else knew? Howlen Reed?), so being legitimized as a Stark is the only real actuality, even if Bran confirms R+L=J this upcoming episode. Pretty much only Bran being made the Stark in the North and then the North being a separate kingdom could get Jon Targ as a possibility.

 

also remember targaryens always married each other, makes a jon/dany scenario even more likely
ice and fire

 

Dany can't have kids and further the line though, if the prophecy of the Mirri Maz Duur is to be believed. I think she ends up dead by the end of the War for the Dawn. Jon furthers the Targaryn line with.............???. My on the limb prediction is Sansa, since they are not actually brother/sister but cousins

 

Also....Meera Reed has to become Meera Stark, right? BRANRAVEN NEEDS A LADY.

She never gets mentioned when people talk about all the beautiful ladies on the show, but I totes have a crush on Meera Reed/Ellie Kendrick. I hope her character gets fleshed out more this season and we get more of her being a badass.

 

too bad jojenpaste won't happen :(

 

he's targaryen

howlen reed almost definitely knows the truth. he was present at the tower of joy and him and ned had a special relationship afterwards.

targaryens did not always marry each other. aerys married the dornish princess which is why dorne has such a chip on their shoulder.

 

yeah gotcha, i know it did happen p often though

 

Jon being a Targaryen is one of the most widely accepted theories, and the only real possibility of it not happening is if GRRM/D&D decide to change it because the fans already guessed it.

 

yeah it was their original practice established by aegon the conqueror but they had to modify it after a while

 

So say Jon is what everyone assumes, then what? Would he be the rightful king at that point?

 

depends on your definition of "rightful"
which is pretty much the igniting conflict of the entire show, lol

 

Rhaegar married Elia Martel, not Aerys.
and they often married siblings.

 

right, good catch, my bad.

 

It would make him the son of the previous rightful heir, but I'm unsure of how it works with bastards. I don't know if his being a bastard means Dany's claim is stronger, I would assume it is.

Of course, perhaps Rhaegar and Lyanna were married in secret...

 

Jon's claim would be stronger than Dany's, but I highly doubt that would stop her (ie Renly).

 

pretty sure jon would be favored by targaryen rules post-dance of dragons

 

I keep wondering if we're going to see that particular ADWD plotline show up in the show this season.

 

Does his bastard status not play into it at all? I.e., is Gendry's claim to the throne stronger than Stannis or Renly's was?

 

targaryens practiced inheritance differently than everyone else. it's like extreme primogeniture where the male descendant of any branch of the male line is favored over any woman. its part of the consequences of the dance of dragons/blackfyre rebellion if i remember right.

 

I don't understand why people are assuming the R+L=J will be revealed this coming week.
At this point, the casual viewer really has no vested interest in who Jon's parents are. It's not the reason he has been resurrected, and at this point in the story it serves no specific purpose. It hasn't been really mentioned since season 1, and I just don't see how it progresses the story at this moment in time.
To add, we haven't seen or heard enough of R+L as individuals to actually care about them or recognize their significance to the plot.
Their names have been brought up here and there, but as I watch the show with a bunch of casual viewers, a lot of those viewers sort of zone out during those small talk sequences.