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Dua Lipa - Radical Optimism (May 3, 2024) • Page 23

Discussion in 'Music Forum' started by ItsAndrew, Oct 9, 2023.

  1. imthegrimace

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    I heard she’s bagging groceries now
     
  2. Craig Manning

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    Probably at Target.
     
  3. sophos34

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    Futures got a 3.0 on pitchfork ffs
     
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  4. somethingwitty

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    that’s a damn good deal
     
  5. Craig Manning

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    The most offended I ever was by one of their scores, tbh.
     
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  6. sophos34

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    Sorry I’m two months behind this thread apparently
     
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  7. ItsAndrew

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    I have no comment on the flop narrative, but it is interesting how it feels like her team/label has abandoned this album, which is a shame because it’s a good album meant for the summer! Some promo or music videos or pushing of singles would be nice.

    and FWIW, I am seeing this same sentiment by people who have been fans of hers since day one, since before she broke in America, etc. just expressing slight disappointment in how this era has gone while expressing how much they love this album

    (if you read the Radical Optimism thread on PopJustice you will see a lot of these complaints)
     
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  8. Craig Manning

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    It does feel like it got left for dead a little bit. Though, to be fair, most albums kind of feel that way these days.
     
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  9. somethingwitty

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    very true…I’m sure it’s due to how we consume them now but it seems records go by so quickly now. Brat is probably the longest a record has held onto the cultural narrative.

    It feels like Dua and Ariana both put out records that just faded wayyyy too quickly.
     
  10. ItsAndrew Aug 13, 2024
    (Last edited: Aug 13, 2024)
    ItsAndrew

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    I think we can understand that the album is not a flop but also that her and her team have been lacking in the promotional department in regards to this record which has caused it to fade in the public. That doesn’t mean it’s a bad album, just the reality of the situation. After she did SNL and that pop up show in Times Square back in May the only promo I’ve seen her do of this album is headlining Glastonbury which was back in June. That’s a huge complaint I am seeing from even her die hard fans, there’s even a meme that is going around asking “Where is Dua Lipa?” from one of her stan accounts.
     
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  11. sophos34

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    can’t really bring myself to care about any of this if I’m being totally honest with you. most albums I listen to barely get promo to begin with let alone months of it.
     
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  12. Craig Manning

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    My feeling is that she'll be fine, but the perception that your last album flopped is not a great thing in pop music, judging by recent history. Look at how much Katy Perry has struggled over the last decade.
     
  13. ItsAndrew

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    and honestly, if people don’t care about promo there’s nothing wrong with that, but I can’t be mad at the people who have been fans for so long wanting the best for her and wanting more out of this era (especially after Future Nostalgia which was a really great era) so I see both sides
     
  14. JRGComedy

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    Maybe she knows the album is mid
     
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  15. sophos34

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    I dk when we started breaking down artists careers into eras but that’s another massive problem with the current culture imo but I digress
     
  16. mescalineeyes

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    I fucking love this album and every time one of the songs comes on I am chuffed
     
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  17. sophos34

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    Maybe she wanted a low key low stress “era” after the protracted and likely exhausting cycle surrounding future nostalgia especially as a “pandemic” album
     
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  18. ItsAndrew

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    Also I still maintain that These Walls should be a smash hit right now
     
  19. Craig Manning

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    “These Walls” not being one of the songs they pushed as a single is definitely A Choice.
     
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  20. Craig Manning

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    Re: stock up/stock down reads on artists, I do think that pop music was pretty static for a few years there, in terms of who the dominant names were. We didn't really mint a whole lot of new stars in the last few years of the 2010s or the early 2020s. Now we're getting a bunch all at once, and it feels like it's causing things to shuffle around a little. That's probably why there have been a bunch of "gut check" moments like this.
     
  21. somethingwitty

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    bingo. its the most immediate track on the record.
     
  22. Micah511

    We reach for the longest shadow

    Maybe they are just chillin and letting Chappell Roan and Sabrina have their moments. There's also a lot going on where tours are booked then getting canceled because they aren't selling. Ride this out until Sabrina's album is out and then announce a tour, potentially at smaller venues to guarantee sellouts. CRJ plays smaller venues and it works out fine for her. Granted, according to Spotify plays Dua Lipa is about 4x CRJ size though.
     
  23. Micah511

    We reach for the longest shadow

    Lol I feel this same way, it's just a foreign concept for most bands I like. Generally most bands I like release an album, tour the 1500 cap venue (at the most), get a support slot for a bigger artist, then take a year or two off, then rinse, lather, repeat.
     
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  24. bobby_runs

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    I mean she could get some momentum with a strong tour for this album. Just kinda hope she doesn't overshoot herself with venue sizes.
     
  25. ComedownMachine

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    The hits from the first two albums alone will keep her in arenas for at least the next decade